Upvoting posts is fine, but Karma I can do without. Back on Reddit sometimes I help somebody with something and I get maybe 3 or 4 Karma. Make a stupid joke in a popular Thread and get that hundred fold. Karma is useless.
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I wouldn't mind some sort of rating scale at least, but nothing infinitely growing like reddit karma.
I found the karma useful to see if someone had a relatively well used account, was a karma farming bot, a shit poster, a lurker, or an asshole.
Maybe just a scale to determine an accounts total relative ratio of upvotes to down votes?
If we keep it without karma, bagdes and other reward crap then the only reward is the information of the post itself, the plus that ir brings to the people involved. As a forum should be.
Man so far i am loving lemmy and the fediverse. Clunky? Yes. But i love this real sense of community that was lost at reddit. Losing RIF was truly a blessing in disguise. I hope more people will move here but even if they don't, I am ok. I am sick and tired of my data being something that goes to feed the pockets of some corporation. Fuck it.
Clunky is good, as my dad says: "imperfection adds character, a sort of rustic appeal"
+1 lemmy gold to you stranger!
Take this SiLvEr. It's all I can afford.
I love that vintage silver is back, and the sloppy photoshop job to slap Lemmy onto it only makes it better.
Not even the effort to type out Lemmy themselves, ripped straight from a webpage. Perfection
lmfao that made me laugh out loud. it caught me off guard
I noticed that I don't have a karma or upvote counter for my account, and I felt free. Let's keep it that way. It just encourages more ego and skin in the discussion ahead of focusing on the content and further penalizes users who sometimes have an unpopular, but still civil and constructive, opinion. I don't want an echo chamber effect.
I imagine that implementing such a metric could become quite confusing if it turned out that not all instances permitted all communities in the future. If this is already the case, please excuse me. I've been on Lemmy for one hour total. Solving that consistency problem couldn't be easier than just not solving it.
Hate to break it to ya but that’s just your UI from whatever app you’re using; you definitely have a “karma” score / upvote score, currently at 47 comment upvotes total.
Totally agree. I don't want karma. It was useless anyways.
For the most part. The reality is upvotes for people serve as dopamine boosts and they crave it. It helps drive engagement, and of course addiction.
Karma's a bitch or something.
Karma is the wind in my hair on the weekend.
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Honestly I don't mind the upvote and downvote system but i don't want reddit replicated.
At this point, I reckon no one on Lemmy wants Reddit replicated in any shape or form…
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It’s my karma and I want it now!
Let's not, we're all better off without imaginary internet points.
Why?
Posts should have the ability to be promoted or buried, to help highlight interesting stuff.
But why people? I don't get it. Isn't this place more like a forum than a social network?
Leave that crap for Facebook etc..
As someone who used reddit when Dig was still big; let Karma die, it's so stupid.
100% agree! It's so nice right now to not see dumb posts when users trying to karma farm. I have been loving Lemmy so far. I just hope we get more users so we can get more engagement from the smaller communities.
What was the point of karma? I never understood the value in having it.
Good. Karma just incentivizes the monetization of accounts. Without karma there is less incentive for bots and grifters since visibility/prominence/influence can no longer be bought and sold.
I never understood this obsession with internet points to the point where people are willing to farm them. I guess on Reddit there was a monetary incentive, with people selling accounts with certain amounts of karma. Honestly to me it’s always been more like “cool, I got 48 upvotes on this post” or whatever, and move on with my day.
It would be interesting to have a poll on how many people really would want reddit-style karma on lemmy. I suspect it wouldn't be that high
Karma wouldn't work on Lemmy. I could just make an instance and run a script to give myself as much upvotes as I wanted.
I imagine you could have some sort of distributed karma system
e.g., each instance has its own notion of your karma. Calculating karma would then involve querying all federated instances and summing up the value. So now you'd need two instances, both federated with others, in order to karma hack. Not impossible, but more annoying. Alternately, you could only sum up the karma on particular instances, rather than all federated instances.
You just know some nerds would fucking love finding karma exchange rates and keeping tables. The same people who play eve in excel
you can play eve in excel!?
Can you not?
If people really want karma, they can write a 3rd party app to total their comments and posts scores. This isn't reddit.
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To anyone suggesting karma is a good anti bot tool, remember there is karma whoring. Nothing is stopping a bot from spamming useless things, and interacting with other bot posts to build karma. This is already happening on reddit when you navigate to weird subs where all the content is coming from one account posting links to the same shitty tabloid site. Yet this content is getting upvotes from something.
Karma is security theater, I think the mods were the true anti-bot force.
not to play devil's advocate here, but for the average interwebs John Q. Public user isn't a karma "fence" that has to at least be climbed, better than nothing at all? but yeah of course its a false sense of security.
Reddit Karma really just incentives unhelpful but funny/highly agreeable post. Upvotes are fine as a per-thread moderation system, but when you have a total of all up votes it opens the door to circlejerks and discriminating against users with low karma score (which also incentives circlejerks as a quick way to earn enough karma to be a valid user, enables paid shills and enables account selling).
Karma totals is more or less one of the biggest flaws with reddit.
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