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[–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 289 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

“Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks.“

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

How the fuck did Harvard students act so stupid and give out their info like that? I thought they were like the smartest people in the US. 🤔

[–] TesterJ@lemmy.world 119 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Most Harvard students are still just 18-22 year old "kids". Think of how dumb/naive you were at that age.

[–] Captain_Nipples@lemmy.world 83 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Try telling that to a 18-22 yr old. You think you know everything at that age. Then you get older and realize no one knows any fucking thing

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[–] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

As a 21 year old I would be offended but then I remember I just admitted my exact age on the internet

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[–] Tau@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 years ago

smartest people in the US

The problem is that that is a very low bar to overcome

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

This is still I think the most telling glimpse into who the "ZUCK" really is. Looking at what meta has become, how it has operated... No matter how professional and respectable he acts.

This is who he really is.

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[–] mokoshark69@lemmy.world 170 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This is a reminder to lemmy users, that this new meta expriement will use the ActivityPub protocol, meaning that it can interact with other lemmy instances, please urge your lemmy instance admins to de-federate from this crap as soon as it launches!

[–] mnstrspeed@lemm.ee 49 points 2 years ago (14 children)

But why? Isn't the whole point of federation that we can interact with people in other communities? Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub? Completely walling them off seems counterproductive

Not defending Meta, just curious

[–] clara@feddit.uk 121 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (21 children)

this is why

there is a very good chance that this project by meta is the thin end of the wedge

(edited to include "the blogpost", link here)

[–] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

Interesting and I'd say you're right. If you were to see a mass adoption of the fediverse (such as Twitter imploding and mastadon becoming the replacement) there would be an immediate attempt by the big tech players to gain control of it in some way. And this is exactly how they would try to do it.

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[–] graphite@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?

No. We don't. The more hands they have in the fediverse pie, the more influence they have over it. The more influence they have, the more control. The more control, the more at the whim of their decisions you are. The more at the whim of their decisions, the more power they have over you.

This should be common sense at this point.

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[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 years ago

Don’t we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?

I certainly don't. I abandoned Facebook years ago because of how BS they were getting with privacy concerns and social manipulation. Last thing I want is to bring those dumpster fires here. They join the platform, I will migrate to whichever Instances defed them or leave Lemmy entirely if necessary. Simply put, it's been a breathe of rational, civil air here. While it is early days keeping that hostile-to-humanity crap out of here is obvious minimum we should be doing.

[–] mokoshark69@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Were talking about meta here, this is a bait and switch attempt (I see it that way)

They launch their new twitter competitor, everyone moves over to their new twitter clone, they will try and hold the power on standarts of federation (like any big tech corporation that has a smaller rival that succedes more then them, see microsoft vs netscape for refrence)

If they will fail with that, they will try to seduce lemmy and mastodon instaces with monetization and big money handouts, were talking about facebook here after all, they are not short of scummy tactics

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[–] cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business 148 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Data this app collects: yes.

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[–] PixelOfLife@lemmy.world 114 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 93 points 2 years ago (1 children)

jUsT gIvE mETa A cHAnCe iN tHe fEdIVeRsE DuRRrrpH

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Meta rolling into the fediverse like the martians in Mars Attacks.

“Don’t run! We’re you’re your friends!”

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[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 80 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, he's a big fan of access. May as well just make an extra category marked "everything".

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (5 children)

That's the reason they wanted to make their own phone. They wanted it all

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[–] AnonTwo@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn't that just...everything?

Like is there anything they aren't requesting?

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[–] DeadNinja@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Don't forget to report it inside Play Store. All of these permissions are not required, thus the app is breaking store rules.

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[–] corroded@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I run a pair of PiHole instances for DNS on my home network, and I periodically check the logs and look up blocked domains that I don't recognize. Every single time, it's a service that provides telemetry for mobile apps. It's insane how much data apps try to collect.

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[–] moitoi@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (21 children)

I'm asking myself how people can accept these conditions. There is a huge work of education on privacy to be done.

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[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I bet they said something like "we don't use most of that information, we just need access in case we add a new feature in the future that uses it". And then it'll come out that they've always been using it, and it's been associated with your identifying info. And then their server will be hacked (because the admin password was "meta123") and the all the info will leak. The modern internet sucks.

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[–] 47_Alpha_Tango@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well if you download a Facebook owned app you should expect this.

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[–] ExecutorAxon@vlemmy.net 43 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Why do all of Zucc companies terms and conditions have this air of desperation and grubbiness about them? 😂

No other services feel as slimy even though they're all doing mostly the same things.

Meta feels like you're interacting with a drug addicted stalker following you home

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[–] lol@lemm.ee 42 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Zuck wants to know your location

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[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They could have saved time by just saying "Everything"

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Crazy thought, but people don't need Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, any Twitter replacement, etc. I.e. ya'll don't need 'social media'.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 years ago

Do not trust apps like this. Facebook mined this shit without any warning originally.

[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Lol not sure why people are surprised

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Anyone know Meta's track record with data?

It's got to be great if they ask for all this /s

[–] NoughtE@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Let's not forget that they were fined $5 billion for deliberately misleading users about how their personal data was used in regard to the Cambridge Analytica scandal that effectively swayed over 200 elections all over the world, including both Brexit and Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.

Seriously, everyone seems to have forgotten about that shit and it's fucking insane.

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[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago

It's gratifying seeing this because usually when I see these kinds of worrying data permissions it's because a service I really want or need is being held hostage until I agree to this false choice and I have to start figuring out whether there's some way around this or if I'm going to have to embarrassingly explain to someone why I can't use this service they expected me to sign up to.

But then I see this and it's for something I'd never want to sign up to anyway and it's just like a list of dodged bullets. 😎 So nice to just laugh at their bullshit.

[–] Under_enrage@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

so what is the difference from Spyware and meta's services

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[–] Johnnynobody66@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Fuck off Zuck you fucking weirdo

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

What "Other Data"?! Want my fuckin horoscope Zuck? How about the results of my last rectal exam? fuckin hell

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[–] AllGoesUpMustGoDown@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Why does Zuck want to know the browser histories of people on the internet? 😳

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[–] harbo@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Lol fuck that, I’ll stick with mastodon

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[–] Savoling@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If the general public was just aware of how much privacy they lose by downloading these apps, companies like Meta would never be able to get away with stuff like this.

[–] Faust223@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I doubt it. Most of the time when I point out to someone just how much data they're giving up the response is just "so what if a chinese person knows about me"

Privacy for its own sake has lost value with the younger generations. What we really need to do is educate on the consequences and dangers of the lack of privacy.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

It hasn't lost its value. Privacy is still important to them as it always was. It's just been distorted a bit.

Anytime someone acts flippant about privacy, ask them to unlock their phone and hand it to you. Look through all of their messages, emails, photos, etc. See how quickly privacy matters. Tell them to shower with the door open or go to the bathroom while you watch.

Tell them you'll accompany them to their doc appointments.

People want privacy. People need it.

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