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[-] AlicePraxis@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

if you criticize capitalism while rich then you're a hypocrite. if you criticize capitalism while poor then you're jealous. either way the message is clear: "don't criticize capitalism"

isn't it funny how a person's wealth is used to discredit socialist arguments but not capitalist ones? liberals seem to only take the position that rich people are bad when said rich person is advocating for radical change.

[-] sovietgaze@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

it not a message. it is a dogma.

[-] RollaD20@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He was a class traitor simple as. Many people operate against the benefits of their own class. Just as some of the underclass will sell out their fellow workers for a portion of the loot, some of the ruling class will act to dismantle the system of looting. While class is important, it is not the end all be all to understanding a person.

Also the unfortunate truth is that most people who are going to be able to gain a stronger theoretical understanding of capitalism, economics, philosophy, etc. require leisure time in order to do that. And leisure time requires money

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

It's a reactive argument. The person saying it doesn't care, otherwise they'd be outraged that everyone running our capitalist society is richer than God. People just want a quick dunk so they can turn off their brains and go about their day.

[-] pedestrian@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago
[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Who else was going to pay Marx's rent?

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

'Okay, but how does that make him wrong?'

Or 'There were plenty of poor people who had similar ideas at the time and couldn't afford the education, time, or connections to have their work published.'

Or 'If he was poor you'd say he couldn't know enough about wealthy people'

Or just pull out a glossy 8x10 of PPB and hand it to them.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

You just ignore it, it's not an actual argument.

It's the old "you disagree with society, yet you participate in it" argument.

One does not have an option to participate in society, so might as well do well in society. Just try to exploit as little as possible in this exploitative society, and try to contribute towards socialism (or whatever you believe) in whatever way you can, just like Engels did.

[-] companero@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

His positive impact on history outweighed the negative impact of his wealth hoarding. It's really that simple.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Communism seeks to overthrow the capitalist system.

Being the most ethical person to ever live under capitalism isn't sufficient to overthrow capitalism.

That's individualist nonsense and that makes you, may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, ~~an Albanian~~ a liberal.

[-] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Say "me too" and pull down your collar to reveal your gold chains

[-] markr@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Agree that this is a fact. Now ask how it is relevant.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago
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