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[–] WtfEvenIsExistence@reddthat.com 92 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Excuse me wtf. I mean drafting people to invade another country is already fucked up enough. Charging money to return bodies? What. The. Fuck. So is the russian army just gonna accept this? C'mon man, do a coup.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure the military needs this too, just to keep it funded.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You say that like the military would see a single red ruble of that payment rather than it going straight into the commander's rainy day fund. He had to go and get Conscriptovich killed in the first place, that's hard work and deserves compensation.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

I like you! I love the image of a russian official hiding away a dying currency in their mattress, "just in case".

All the while the absolute downpour around them makes that moment the rainiest day on record.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They are charging half a year's income, by the way. Not just "charging money", but charging so much that no one can afford it without becoming homeless.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A coup is extremely unlikely, and here's why. The ruzzian army is mostly a collection of private armies funded and heavily influenced by oligarchs. These oligarchs manage to get along with eachother to cooperate on a battlefield under higher instruction, but there is still bickering, backbiting and bullshit behind the scenes.

A coup would require the majority of the army's oligarchs to get along with eachother, trust eachother and coordinate with eachother. Imagine Italian mafias from the 1960's and how difficult that would be to accomplish. That's about how childish, skittish and unintelligent these guys are and why a coordinated coup is not likely.

The good news is, though, a temper tantrum by one oligarch could get pootin killed. That is not off the table on any given week. Cross your fingers.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Helps keep them massage the causalty numbers if they don't have to return all the bodies ...

[–] robbotlove@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol they're cartoonishly evil

[–] mihor@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago

The only cartoonish thing here is obvious (and very stupid) Ukrainian propaganda.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

Insider was unable to independently verify the claim.

Look, I side with Ukraine in this conflict, but this info is coming from a Ukrainian human rights group. I think I'd assume that this is propaganda that might contain a grain of truth.

[–] Declared0978@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Declared0978@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Nice, thanks for giving them credit. I had no idea when from whom it came :)

[–] Random_user@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sitting here watching Jack Ryan season 3 and Russia is portrayed as this big bad world super power and it's endleslessly laughable.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

🤣🤣🤣

Yeah... that season was a little interesting. They definitely wrote it before the war as it has not aged well.

[–] AsRedAsMonkeysAss@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is jack ryan series good ? Should i watch it

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Lotta pro US/CIA 'ganda.

[–] Random_user@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

1 and 2 are good but 3 and 4 are too over the top "super spy" mode

[–] raker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

First season, definately.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's ok with good production values but the latest season is terrible.

[–] BobKerman3999@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I stopped watching the first season because it was sucking CIA's dick too much

[–] ours@lemmy.film 1 points 1 year ago

It's a Tom Clancy IP so CIA and US military worship is a given.

But the last season was so inept. The season finaly was specially terrible immitating badly a similar scene from Sicario. And it was a real slog getting there with their convoluted, ridiculous and boring take on "Clear and present danger".

I don't mind consuming propaganda/CIA Mary Sue but it at least has to be entertaining.

The recently released series Lioness does a much better job even if Taylor Sheridan recycles his "cartels working with Islamic terrorists" plot point from Sicario 2 which I find way too far fetched.

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To put things into perspective, that's ~4 months of median salary, or ~8 months of minimum wage.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what is the death benefit to the family?

Russian officers refused to collect the bodies of dead troops so the military wouldn't have to pay their families, convict soldier says https://lemmy.world/post/3294516

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 2 points 1 year ago

I've heard figures up to $30k, I think, but 1. reports on whether these are or are not paid out reliably don't seem conclusive to me 2. I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a regional coefficient, and these are Moscow numbers 3. wrestling them out of the system must be hard, and now there's also $SUBJ.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Feels like a kickback scheme: you need a body to get benefits, you must pay us to get the body....

[–] Decimit@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there is a terrible way of doing anything, Russia goes that route.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Russia is what a country run by only Republicans would look like. Desolation and grift everywhere. In short, in the wise words of orange man, "a shithole country".

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russians are mostly conservative, so they will not rock the boat by complaining too much. They will just say it's all for the best.

Conservatism harms everyone. Even conservatives.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

So much for getting a new car...

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is adding insult to injury.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re a bit more than injured if I understood correctly.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

you made me crack up with that lovely bit of gallows humour.

[–] rippersnapper@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone else feel two massive countries (Russia and China) are lurching from serious crisis to crisis (war, economic slowdown) and just feels like the "I'm in Danger" meme?

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The US isn't much better. The 3 world superpowers are in serious trouble.

It’s nothing compared to what their indigenous populations endure under their rule.

[–] Numlock@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

compare the exchange rates of their currencies to see how thoroughly wrong you are.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But whatabout the USA? 🤪🤪

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

India's on the rise. Unfortunately it is run by a fascist.

[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

there is hope for India

[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 year ago

Everything is a fucking grift in Russia. Goddamn.

[–] 30mag@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Do they still get a Lada?

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

What #Ruzzians allow, will continue.