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[–] moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 154 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Now personally I think we have the word takie pretty well defined in our rules and have no intention of changing it. Fuck tankies, they don't belong here.
I didn't write fuck commies, or fuck libtards, (I am a vocal socialist and very far left) or anything like that, the banner is specifically about pro-auth dictator-worshipping tankies.

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[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 136 points 1 year ago (9 children)

some people want to post here but are repelled by "fuck tankies?"

good.

that is the intended functionality of the banner.

Generally speaking, people offended by this are either:

  • libs that dont understand the distinction between tankie and communist or have been misinformed by tankies on what its supposed to mean, but are pro communism(wierd combination?)

  • the "CCCP did nothing wrong" people

maybe having something leftist in the banner or some place like that could help the former, but I wouldnt remove the message, as it acts as a soft filter for the latter.

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[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 116 points 1 year ago

Tankies mad they're being called tankies?

Drawing a comparison to the use of "woke" is fucking hilarious. Only one of those terms is actually an insult, and the insinuation that both of those terms are the same says a lot about their perspective.

[–] dewritochan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 116 points 1 year ago

yeah. fuck tankies. that's the thoughts.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 1 year ago (35 children)

The fact they feel the phrase fuck tankies is acting as a barrier to their participation in 196 should be a wake up call for them to examine their political views.

Unlike their use of the word liberal, which they use to refer to everyone to the right of them on the political spectrum, we are using the word tankie for a single specific group. Tankie means authoritarian communist. Please keep the sign.

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[–] Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, definitely not. "Tankie" isn't some mostly meaningless word like "woke", it's a very specific belief in authoritarian self-declared, so-called "communist" states (USSR, China, North Korea, et al).

They claim to be for revolution and then turn around and give 100% blind obedience to the newly installed leaders. Pointing out their immense power or bad actions gets you called brainwashed, a reactionary, or counter-revolutionary. They win gold in mental gymnastics in regards to how the new ruling class totally doesn't count as a ruling class, how the state doesn't count as a state, how the money doesn't count as money, and how it's still communism even though not a single one of those prerequisites has ever been met.

They don't take down systems of oppression, they replace them and refuse to believe it isn't the greatest idea anyone's ever had. Here's a hint: if your "revolutionary" party demands absolute loyalty, they probably aren't as great as they say.

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[–] kebabslob@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I say I have to agree. Leftist infighting is cringe AF. Disagree w/ people all you want, but gatekeeping and name calling is just silly

[–] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 99 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I think it's reasonable to want to have a space that's free from people that defend authoritarian regimes. From my perspective, at least, 196 has always been a more anarchist-oriented space, and I think it makes sense to try to preserve that.

I'd also make the distinction that they are not banned from this forum, in the same way that libs are not banned from posting on their instance -- but those that post there are generally met with hostility, and that preserves the character of their space. I don't see why we shouldn't do the same.

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[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Fuck authoritarianism, I don’t care what side of the isle it’s from.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Tolerating putin simps is even more cringe.

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[–] Hubi@feddit.de 68 points 1 year ago

Imagine simping for a genocidal Russia with their homophobic and transphobic laws and still wanting to post on 196. Good on you for keeping the banner up. Fuck tankies.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 1 year ago

terf is a slur 🤝 tankies is a slur

the worst people on the internet

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 55 points 1 year ago

I think if a person feels offended by a generic "fuck tankies" in the banner, then that person is probably a tankie. Fuck tankies.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

To be clear, what I asked for, was that the direct contents of a DM not be shared without the other parties permission. You can absolutely summarise the contents of the discussion.

[–] LeylaaLovee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Oh boy, more of Moss starting shit. This is literally bait that doesn't actually communicate anything, along with communicating something you never actually said. Moss, quit with the shitty bait posts and ableist slurs, you are a drama starter in your own community and it isn't appreciated. Malicious compliance towards Ada is a dick move.

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[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They, and their Lemmygrad bretheren, can fuck right off. When they're not minimising atrocities, they're writing absolute fucking treatsies on communist theory, and in general, acting like insufferable twats.

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[–] tupewe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 year ago

Fuck tankies 🖕

[–] tfw_no_toiletpaper@feddit.de 44 points 1 year ago

Yeah no, the last time I saw a discussion with a large percentage of hexbear user's, they were all praising Putin, it wasn't even on 196. So fuck them

[–] StarMage@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tankies will never be welcome

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[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 42 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I think all instances should block the tankies treat them the same as you would alt right because really there no different they both support facist ideologies

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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Honestly I think we should change our banner.

On the app Jerboa at least it's hard to see that it says fuck tankies, it really should be more clear.

Perhaps having it off to one side, split across both sides, mentioned on both sides, across the bottom 3 times, etc. IDK graphic design is hard.

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[–] sciawp@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] NeoMoss@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 year ago

It's telling they fellt the need to defederate first. They need to controll their narrative, otherwise their views might get challenged and their tankie idiology starts to crumble.

I am for left unity, but tankies always try to strongarm the discussion and don't really argue on good faith. They don't respect any idiology other then theirs.

Probably the best outcome, even if it's a pity losing their more reasonable users.

[–] emerging_obscurity@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 year ago

Have they considered not being tankies

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Fuck tankies, and fuck Hexbear and Exploding-Heads.

[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 year ago

Tankies deserve to be made fun of

[–] Blahaj_Blast@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago

Yeah, nah, yeah, FUCK TANKIES

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