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It’s possible that the enforcement of a rate limit isn’t because of AI scraping, but rather because they failed to migrate before the June 30th deadline.

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[–] Danatronic@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (28 children)

It's so fucking funny how Twitter and Reddit are imploding on the exact same day lmao.

[–] OctopusKurwa@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Spez did say Musk's Twitter was something to be admired and emulated lol

[–] Marxine@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They seem really aligned in their goals then!

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[–] senkora@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

End-of-quarter. Companies often make decisions quarter by quarter and 6/30 was the last day of Q2.

[–] Empyreus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I always forget how important quarters are in the business world.

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[–] reverendz@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not to sound paranoid, but it’s kind of worrying.

In recent years, these sites have been used to pass information quickly during crisis. This can be anything like natural disaster, or uprising and protests.

These big aggregators being incompetently, mismanaged and taken down from public use at the same time, makes me wonder if it’s an attempt to quash communication that’s not coming from a government or mega-corp.

The revolution will not be televised.. by the people.

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[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Imagine if this guy had the controls to the oxygen on Mars

[–] MonsieurArchi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

he would definitely sell access to it per second.

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[–] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Image Transcription: News Article Screenshot:


[A screenshot of a section of an article by the news outlet "Engadget". Text reads as follows.]

More platform instability could be in Twitter's near future. In 2018, Twitter signed a $1 billion contract with Google to host some of its services on the company's Google Cloud servers. [Hyperlink begins] Platformer reports [Hyperlink ends] Twitter recently refused to pay the search giant ahead of the contract's [Highlighted in yellow] June 30th renewal date. [Highlighting ends] Twitter is reportedly rushing to move as many services off of Google's infrastructure before the contract expires, but the effort is "running behind schedule," putting some tools, including Smyte, a platform the company [Hyperlink begins] acquired in 2018 [Hyperlink ends] to bolster its moderation capabilities, in danger of going offline.


^I'm a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

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[–] Khrounose@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I see that a lot of people complain about reddit, twitter, and whatever mainstream website completely fuck the consumer, but fail to realize one crucial thing. The only time change happens in mob settings is when the pain of no change is greater than the pain of change. I applaud Elon, spez, and who ever else wishes to put there services behind their paywall whether it's an API or just simply viewing tweets. Anyone in the know knows that it's a crock of shit and anyone who isn't is annoyed to the point where change is preferable. The sooner people figure out posting information, entertainment, and other forms of media/knowledge to the benefit of a company is horrendous the better. Now we have the opportunity to get rid of the corporate greed and basically open-source peoples knowledge from around the globe. Although like with reddit, mob mentality poses a real threat to communities like this one, I trust that you all are normal and level headed individuals who can come to disagreements but still respect eachother (as corny as that sounds). I much prefer it over giving more information to companies who use it to profit off of my content, while I receive nothing.

*Edit: Thank you kind stranger for the reddit gold! Glad you spent real hard cash so I can have reddit premium and reddit coins! The lovely people at reddit will be spending your money sitting on a yacht eating grapes in one hand and lobster in the other. I'm sure they are real thankful too! :) *

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[–] A_S_B@lemmy.eco.br 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What can i say ? I just don´t care anymore about twitter. Also any misfortune for space Karen is just a plus at this point

[–] OasissisaO@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I especially enjoy that, no matter how much he drives the value down, he's always going to owe the full value of the loans.

[–] A_S_B@lemmy.eco.br 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah and he used tesla actions as a collateral. So if he is not able to make money to pay for the loans, he will lose control of Tesla. I´m savoring every moment that things are blowing up in his face. After this venture fails, he will probably still be rich, but surely not a billionaire anymore and i will vicariously enjoy his fall from billionaire extraordinaire to just a legacy common stock millionaire.

[–] UmbrellAssassin@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

At this point I have no idea if twitter dying is a planned thing or mismanagement. I made my profile my freshman year of high school and never logged back on. The only thing I'll miss is having a general place for quick updates on projects that I'm keeping an eye on. Guess it's time to fully utilized discord.

[–] Strangian@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Yeah Elon is an idiot, but its hard to believe someone could burn Twitter to the ground this fast unintentionally

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[–] majere@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Someone literally hacked my account and bot posting for cryptocurrency. I requested account recovery from Twitter and it all just went to hell after that. The process was bizarre. Repeated instructions for steps I already finished, the entire process starting from scratch, no replies.

So my account is out there now, doing who knows what. Congrats, it's a bot.

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[–] WorldWideLem@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know what will happen with Twitter. Maybe it succeeds, maybe it fails, maybe it just keeps humming along in mediocrity. But what I do know is that wherever it ends up, there was surely a much simpler way to get there.

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[–] Tandybaum@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I used to work for a local company that sold parts to Tesla. They were a huge nightmare and wouldn’t pay us. I think that is their whole deal. Not paying the small companies.

FUCK them

[–] NotMartyMcFly@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Tandybaum@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] zammy95@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Sounds like rich entitled cunts

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[–] MerfMerf@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Unfortunately that sort of behaviour is common in many sectors where large companies subcontract with smaller companies.

The tactic basically created the whole factoring concept (buying invoices, or using invoices as security for a "loan"/credit).

Over here in Sweden it was construction companies that initially fuelled the development, and the large companies basically required very long payment terms (60+ days) from their subcontractors and then waited to the very last day to dispute the invoice by complaining on some part of the work, further delaying payment. A small subcontractor could often not front being out that much money (2+ months of salaries, materials and other operating costs, cost of fighting the dispute etc) and ended up going bust. Enter financial institutions buying (or "lending" with the invoice as security) the invoice, letting the subcontractor get paid immediately, but of course not the full amount since the factoring company wants to profit from the deal. The factoring companies being backed by large financial institutions (banks typically) have enough money that they can sit out those long payment terms and other "bullshit" since they know those large construction companies ARE good for the money they are owed EVENTUALLY.

Still carves into the margins for the small actors.

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[–] tylerthehuman@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this is old information being recycled to spread misinformed? they renewed their hosting with google several weeks ago.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Twitter was an important unifying communications tool during the Arab Spring. The Arab spring was a threat to biz as usual in places like Saudi Arabia. The second largest investor in Twitter is Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia killed and dismembered a journalist from the US, more or less in plain sight. Elon is now killing and dismembering Twitter in plain sight to limit its power as a unifying tool that stands as a demonstrable, active threat to capitalism and oligarchs around the world.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires. It's part of why spez is trying to tank Reddit. Remember how dangerous Reddit was to capitalism's status quo around the time of GME/Robinhood/Antiwork recently.

The specific moment we're in right now is meant to shatter consolidated organizing power on Reddit as we splinter into several smaller alternative platforms (or for some, disconnect entirely). Not saying we shouldn't be in Lemmy, but calling out the larger reality of the moment.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires.

[–] Myro@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a bit too much conspiracy for my taste, but for sure, billionaires don't do anything for our good.

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[–] MercuryUprising@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

The more I've been watching this whole thing play out, the more I'm inclined to believe that something like this is possible.

Unfortunately for these dipshits masquerading as geniuses, the genie is out of the bottle, and there's no way he's getting corked back in. The internet is really all we need, and in the event of the mass coordination required to organize a protest or anything of the sort, the first best option will win. Whether that's Signal, or Lemmy, or Facebook, or whatever. Necessity is the mother of invention and the amount of resources that a pissed off population has will always win out in the long-term. Hell, we'll pull a fucking sneaker net if we really have to.

Reddit has already been compromised for a few years now anyways. I noticed when they started banning people for not subscribing to group think or the more recent examples of permabanning users for anti-Russian rhetoric. There are only a few vestiges of Aaron's original dream of Reddit, found in places like Antiwork or WSB, but they're a drop in a bucket full of site-wide dogshit.

[–] dreadedsemi@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't you know? Paying your bills is woke

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

"Bills" is now considered a slur on Twitter.

[–] LastPirate@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (15 children)

What is this guy’s problem?

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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When all this crap started, my guess was that he is some sort of captured asset that's using his position to sabotage the platform to hinder free speech. Initially, he was so strongly targeting any anti-trump/anti-republican assets that it seemed blatantly obvious, but my money is on Russia or China. China being the more obvious option, given they supply a lot of Tesla's materials.

That's all conjecture of course, he could just be an insane despot cutting his nose off to spite his face like Steve Huffman.

[–] whoisearth@infosec.pub 6 points 2 years ago

That's all conjecture of course, he could just be an insane despot cutting his nose off to spite his face like Steve Huffman.

I luled. Fuck that dweeb.

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[–] cristalcommons@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

i wonder if we will end using personal webpages with FOSS/affordable domains and integration to forums and video platforms, just to avoid some crazy CEO screwing our content again.

i think social media was good, but we gave the CEOs too much power over our content and accounts.

so... we went from "social media is where society creates media" to "social media is where tech CEO's control and keep society's media hostage".

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i wonder if we will end using personal webpages with FOSS/affordable domains and integration to forums and video platforms, just to avoid some crazy CEO screwing our content again.

That's what we had before. And it never stopped to exist, it just dwindled out for convenience.

  • no more personal website but just a "facebook page", for convenience
  • no integration between sites, just a few huge ones, for convenience
  • no customisation and personal expression but large, uniformised experience, for convenience
  • no small hosting and individual presence online, just a few massive (corporate) infrastructures graciously given to us, for convenience
  • no control over policies and content, just be happy with what our generous overlord allows us to do, for convenience

The "fediverse" is a step in the good direction, but as long as the general user don't care, these huge services will keep being the "main" internet for the forseeable future. Even abusing the userbase and getting batshit crazy with rules and restrictions isn't stopping them.

Meanwhile, some of us are happy on out littler corner of the internet, using RSS to see what's new on individual websites, and depending on services that are either sanely hosted or even self-hosted and interoperable. But that's not for everyone.

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[–] markon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This is hilarious. Elon musk has shown he's a moron. He's a serial lier. Elon Musk has once again proven himself to be a foolish and dishonest individual.

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[–] Nathaniel_essex@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Im enjoying the shit show Elon is providing. It's definitely entertaining watching a "genius" at work.

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[–] bigshrekeggplant@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought google charges as-you-go.

[–] AClassyGentleman@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

For the average user maybe, but for a client as big as Twitter they're probably going to want to take a more hands-on/careful approach, so whatever's in the contract would probably supersede their standard terms.

[–] adinfinitum@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not going to claim I know what's happening, but I like the self-DDoSing explanation because it's even funnier

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