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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 160 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Well yeah one are peaceful protestors, the other is armed. Cops get scared when someone else can fight back on an even playing field. Even if that somebody is a horrible monster murdering children. They didn't join the force to protect people they joined so people had to do what they say.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 84 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“To protect capital and serve the upper class.”

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It was actually ruled they exist to protect property. So you aren't far off from the truth. We live in backwards land. The changes were so imperceptible, that we didn't even notice them replacing the sky with the ground.

[–] theareciboincident@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Imperceptible to someone completely ignoring history and the world around them, sure!

The concept of state sponsored police in the US originated in slave hunting gangs. The US never changed since the beginning.

To your point though there is an incredible amount of brainwashing. Your average North Korean is less brainwashed than Americans, at least they know what other countries have.

Americans think they are the last beacon of civilization and the developed world is in ruins when it’s literally the other way around lmao.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I want to agree with you but you're wrong about n koreans. They may know their government is shit and are unable to change it but I doubt they truly know all of what other countries have. They don't even have access to the internet unless they're the top 1 percent there. At most they have access to their intranet and state sponsored television content. They even censor jeans in their media.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/north-korea-ban-skinny-jeans/

The amount of unconfirmed or secondhand propaganda we get out of north korea is pretty astounding, I wouldn't at face believe, say, whatever a guardian article posts about them, for instance, and probably also not anything from radio free asia, or probably defectors with inconsistent stories that are funded by the south korean government, that sort of shit.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's fair enough, I did read recently on this site that they did blur jeans on a broadcast of a show. The site claims to be as unbiased as they can but I haven't done deep research into them.

https://www.nknews.org/2024/03/north-korean-tv-censors-blue-jeans-while-airing-british-gardening-show/

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

They have a content syndication agreement with the guardian, and I think they poorly cite their sources in most stories. I wouldn't really have great confidence with their reporting.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You're right about the police. I got a little off topic with the backwards land thing there and generalized everything because it seems every where you look now shit is fucked up.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Nah, this only a half truth. Europe is a fantastic place, free health care un most of the countries. But go to a poorer country like Mexico, and you'll see people living in poorly constructed sheds.

When you see that kind of stuff, that's when you realize how fucking rich and well off the U.S. actually is. The poorest of the poor in the U.S. (excluding homeless) are generally better off than the poor in other countries. Not discounting the struggles of the poor in the U.S. (I grew up dirt poor).

But the thing is, we had running water, toilets, and a place to wash our clothes. There are places that have none of that, and not even access to clean drinking water.

Does the U.S. police state blow ass, yes. But acting like we're some backward ass country in the shitter is missing some perspective.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago

and to earn a lot of money + bragging rights

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

No you are absolutely right. Cops should have just stormed the room at that point. But they knew he had a gun and they valued their lives more. A cop's wife died while he fucken waited.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 87 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Because they know college protesters aren't armed.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 51 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because they’re cowards. Violent cowards who revel in oppression. The worst kind of coward.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

They're bullies.

Both the cowardice in the face of actual risk to themselves and the senseless use of violence when they feel safe against those who can or won't resist in a way that endagers them, are core bully traits.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 7 points 6 months ago

College protesters really need to learn firearm safety and start open carrying rifles at their protests. But they all gotta do it. Can't be one or two random people.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 69 points 6 months ago

Never forget that CA governor Ronald Reagan pushed for a law against folks exercising their second amendment rights to bear arms while patrolling and protecting their communities.

Those folks? The Black Panthers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

Both Republicans and Democrats in California supported increased gun control, as did the National Rifle Association of America.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 56 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They’re just like the IDF. They can only fight unarmed women and children.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Source, if anybody questions that fact.

[–] SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Cops are gutless cowards who can only punch down on people who can't fight back; as soon as they meet someone who poses even a slight threat they cower away.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

They are bullies. And bullies love punching down.

Hollywood spread police propaganda for decades about cops and detectives that are heroes, when in reality the majority are out of shape bullies.

[–] anonymous222@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I am basically afraid of getting on some kind of dissenter's list by up voting this one.

[–] ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

You're already on a couple lists, probably. Might as well join one of the cool ones

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If up voting this gets you on the list, then so does commenting on it.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's right. Now is that a typo or is Villiam your real name?

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I don't answer questions. Am I being detained or am I free to go?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

The only way to beat this is to (up)vote

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 21 points 6 months ago

Yeah, they're bullies. They want to beat/kill unarmed minorities and college students for "not respecting their authority" (exercising their constitutional rights), not actually uphold the law. Cowards...

[–] kiljoy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

College protesters should have guns.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I mean sure but then we are absolutely asking for a massacre and internal war.

Guns only work if you are willing to use them. And once we are, we are saying we don't find police presence valid and the state comes crashing down upon you to end your pitiful existence for posing an internal threat.

We are a country with essentially a bad auto-immune disease that attacks whatever it deems as foreign.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The red hat morons had guns at all their protests and they were allowed to protest as long as they wanted, since police didn't want to escalate.

Meanwhile peaceful, unarmed protesters get pounded into the ground

🤔

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 6 points 6 months ago

Most of them weren't willing to use them and were left alone because the cops were in civilian clothes and busy... You know, doing something other than police work in the exact same area for some reason.

And again what's seen as foreign.
Complaining about us stomping others by being a nuisance is against the people that just want us to shut up and get in line.
Complaining that we aren't stomping hard enough and not enough people is just constructive criticism.

The current goal is to keep things exactly as they are or with more oppression as needed keep it static.

The left can bring guns but it won't change anything other than maybe slightly more likely to die by a cop's hand unless they are willing to use them and once that starts it's will be a lot tougher because we are on the side of change, which must be crushed by the current system.

That's how it is.

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[–] praetor@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not at all wrong. I hate to use this word because it denigrates our wonderful lady friends (both bio and of choice), but cops are pussies. Like the ultimate ones. "look at me! I'm a badass cop gonna violate your rights! Back the Blue!" Let's see what my lawyer has to say about your "badassery". I thought so, bitch. Here's a coupon code for Dunkin. Go away.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You could have just said coward and then you wouldnt need to justify derogatory gender-oriented language

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (9 children)

I'm almost positive the use of the word to call someone a coward has nothing to do with a vagina.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The solution is clear, protesters and school shooters need to put aside their differences and team up.

[–] DiscordMod1990xz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago
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