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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 84 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“To protect capital and serve the upper class.”

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It was actually ruled they exist to protect property. So you aren't far off from the truth. We live in backwards land. The changes were so imperceptible, that we didn't even notice them replacing the sky with the ground.

[–] theareciboincident@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Imperceptible to someone completely ignoring history and the world around them, sure!

The concept of state sponsored police in the US originated in slave hunting gangs. The US never changed since the beginning.

To your point though there is an incredible amount of brainwashing. Your average North Korean is less brainwashed than Americans, at least they know what other countries have.

Americans think they are the last beacon of civilization and the developed world is in ruins when it’s literally the other way around lmao.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I want to agree with you but you're wrong about n koreans. They may know their government is shit and are unable to change it but I doubt they truly know all of what other countries have. They don't even have access to the internet unless they're the top 1 percent there. At most they have access to their intranet and state sponsored television content. They even censor jeans in their media.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/north-korea-ban-skinny-jeans/

The amount of unconfirmed or secondhand propaganda we get out of north korea is pretty astounding, I wouldn't at face believe, say, whatever a guardian article posts about them, for instance, and probably also not anything from radio free asia, or probably defectors with inconsistent stories that are funded by the south korean government, that sort of shit.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's fair enough, I did read recently on this site that they did blur jeans on a broadcast of a show. The site claims to be as unbiased as they can but I haven't done deep research into them.

https://www.nknews.org/2024/03/north-korean-tv-censors-blue-jeans-while-airing-british-gardening-show/

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

They have a content syndication agreement with the guardian, and I think they poorly cite their sources in most stories. I wouldn't really have great confidence with their reporting.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You're right about the police. I got a little off topic with the backwards land thing there and generalized everything because it seems every where you look now shit is fucked up.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Nah, this only a half truth. Europe is a fantastic place, free health care un most of the countries. But go to a poorer country like Mexico, and you'll see people living in poorly constructed sheds.

When you see that kind of stuff, that's when you realize how fucking rich and well off the U.S. actually is. The poorest of the poor in the U.S. (excluding homeless) are generally better off than the poor in other countries. Not discounting the struggles of the poor in the U.S. (I grew up dirt poor).

But the thing is, we had running water, toilets, and a place to wash our clothes. There are places that have none of that, and not even access to clean drinking water.

Does the U.S. police state blow ass, yes. But acting like we're some backward ass country in the shitter is missing some perspective.