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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 301 points 7 months ago (11 children)

We've turned into a nation of cowards. Just completely craven people who shoot first and ask questions later because the news has made them terrified that they'll be murdered in their beds, despite violent crime being historically low, comparatively speaking.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 115 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Having mingled with the gun community for some time, there are a lot of level-headed people among gun owners but there are also a worrying amount of terminally fearful people with violent ideation. Many are likely one bad life event, one half-cocked response to an uncertain situation from being a mugshot on a news story like this prick.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Having mingled with the gun community for some time, there are a lot of level-headed people among gun owners

This is why US has so much gun violence. Like rabid dog owners assuring you theyre safe. You just havent seen them when theyre not level headed, we're all emotional apes.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Yep. Even the "responsible" gun owners I know radiate the "I want you to know I'm dangerous" energy when they tell you how prepared they are, "just in case something happens that requires a gun"

There are other quieter owners you never really hear about though. My brother never really talks about it, doesn't chime in to water cooler "what are you shooting" kinds of talks, and basically just keeps them in the gun safe except for his ~2x a year gun range trips to make sure he stays competent.

He treats them like his garage full of dangerous power tools. Not a toy, but good to have in your back pocket should there be a need for that particular tool some day.

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Yeah. I have friends that won't even let their kids walk a quarter mile to school, in one of the safest communities in the entire state. It's insane. The media has put the fear of "but what if..." into so many people.

You've got better odds winning the lottery than what these people are afraid of. Be smart, be savvy, be aware of your surroundings and watch out for the oblivions as you go about your business. But there's no need to be afraid of everything around you.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Everything is a threat. Thank you Faux News and the rest.

Different color skin - threat

Gay - threat

Trans - threat

Environmental rules - threat

Immigration - thread

Vegetarian - threat

Equality - threat

Atheism - threat

Non-western religion - threat

Woke - threat

Electric cars - threat

The list is endless. Everything is a threat to them. Their pocketbooks, their marriage, their jobs, their theism, their TV, their guns…

An endless barrage of threats that they are constantly reminded of.

What can they do against all these threats? Elect a Strong Man that will crack skulls, He Has All The Answers. But those pesky libs keep getting in the way, so you gotta take matters into your own hands. Thank god and the good ol’ USA you can have a personal arsenal at arm’s reach to instantly panic-fire at that dark-skinned person pulling into your driveway who wants to steal your TV.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The "I feared for my life" rhetoric is just an excuse to shoot people, borrowed from police when they wanted to shoot people. You don't have to politely believe them just because they said it.

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[–] millie@slrpnk.net 140 points 7 months ago (30 children)

As a late night cab driver, if you're ever wondering why I'm on the street rather than the driveway in your sketchy, pickup truck filled suburban neighborhood, this is why.

Give me a shady looking industrial district or run down residential neighborhood over semi-rural suburbia any day of the week. I feel much safer.

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[–] Waldowal@lemmy.world 139 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"So there I was, watching Fox News on one TV, NewsMax on another, dick in hand of course - I'm an alpha you see. And I see this dude trying to steal my freedoms. I ran after him, and I heard him say something woke. It was either "Sorry - wrong house" or "I want to rape your wife and abort the baby". I couldn't tell which. Of course I had my blue steel beauty in the hand I wasnt using to rub one out - so I started blasting...."

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 132 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Huffing Right-Wing media all day turning people extremely paranoid for no actual reason.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 97 points 7 months ago (7 children)

What the fuck are these people so scared of that they start blasting folk for pulling into their driveway? This seems to keep happening and nobody ever thinks to check up on the mf who almost blasted a delivery driver who got the wrong address? Forget just charging the dude with attempted murder, can we search the house and take away firearms from somebody so clearly irresponsible that they can't distinguish a genuine threat from an imagined one?

If the second amendment won't allow that to happen, then the amendment needs to be re-written.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 42 points 7 months ago

A diet of fear mongering media with a heaping helping of social isolation.

Antisocial monsters are made surprisingly easily.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 31 points 7 months ago

Maybe they just want to kill someone.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 97 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Babcock told police what he could see on his Ring camera made him think someone was breaking into his car, so he went outside and started shooting.

Turns out your life is not in danger of someone is breaking into your car and it is not legal to shoot at them. I'm guessing this dipshit considers himself a responsible gun owner.

[–] OutsizedWalrus@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought he wash damaging my car, so I attempted to damage it more with bullet holes.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 88 points 7 months ago (12 children)

It may be in the constitution, but I doubt the founding fathers envisaged that you'd all be such fuckwits.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago (18 children)

It isn't in there. What is in there is a legal provision allowing states to quickly raise an army to deal with a crisis.

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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 78 points 7 months ago (3 children)

$50k bond for almost killing the delivery driver. Bullet hole upper part of the driver door for assuming that the truck was being stolen.

Either he hates dominos or his wife cheated on him with a delivery driver.

[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 101 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Dude fired seven times, and three hit the car. What a menace, should have been charged with attempted murder.

[–] loie@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago (3 children)

And unless he lives in the middle of nowhere... then yeah where did the other four end up?

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 30 points 7 months ago

Outside the environment. /s

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[–] Wilshire@lemmy.world 75 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (12 children)

I don't understand why he wasn't charged with attempted murder. This is a bullshit defense.

Babcock said he went outside and "began shooting at the truck" to "disable" it...

Yes, killing the driver would do that.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 54 points 7 months ago

I don’t understand why he wasn’t charged with attempted murder.

Because...

Tennessee

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[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 68 points 7 months ago (25 children)

Maybe some gun nut can help me with this. If the teen had, say an AR15 because he was concerned about running into some wild hogs. If he ducked down and started firing back in a clearly self defense situation, would he fine in doing this?

Or does it depend on the color of his skin?

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Nevermind the racial part.

Your scenario actually highlights a good point, what kind of society do we want to live in? Some western everyone for them selves, shoot first talk later, or do we want to live in a civilized society?

My belief is that guns in general make us less safe. Both of the individuals in this story would be safer if neither had any guns. As well as the entire neighborhood, would also be safer without guns.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 65 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The ONLY ONLY ONLY way to Prevent this is to make sure TEENAGE DELIVERY DRIVERS shoot at every home they pull up in before getting out!

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 34 points 7 months ago

If the driver had a gun, and the neighbors had guns then this would have never happened....

/s

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 63 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Please make sure this fuckhead is never allowed to touch a firearm for the rest of his life. And give him a few years in a secluded spot to think about what he did wrong.

Sincerely,

Responsible Gun Owners

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago (30 children)

You know what this guy was before he tried to kill someone for the first time?

A responsible gun owner.

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[–] Introversion@kbin.social 52 points 7 months ago

This fucking country. 🤦‍♂️

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago (17 children)

Thank goodness for living in a civilized country where things like that simply don't happen.

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[–] Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Holy shit you guys need some serious help.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Tennessee again. Goddamn, Tennessee what the living fuck is happening over there?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 38 points 7 months ago
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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And pizza delivery drivers continue to be pretty badass.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The Deliverator belongs to an elite order, a hallowed subcategory. He's got esprit up to here. Right now, he is preparing to carry out his third mission of the night. His uniform is black as activated charcoal, filtering the very light out of the air. A bullet will bounce off its arachnofiber weave like a wren hitting a patio door, but excess perspiration wafts through it like a breeze through a freshly napalmed forest. Where his body has bony extremities, the suit has sintered armorgel: feels like gritty jello, protects like a stack of telephone books.

When they gave him the job, they gave him a gun. The Deliverator never deals in cash, but someone might come after him anyway-might want his car, or his cargo. The gun is tiny, aero-styled, lightweight, the kind of gun a fashion designer would carry; it fires teensy darts that fly at five times the velocity of an SR-71 spy plane, and when you get done using it, you have to plug it into the cigarette lighter, because it runs on electricity.

The Deliverator never pulled that gun in anger, or in fear. He pulled it once in Gila Highlands. Some punks in Gila Highlands, a fancy Burbclave, wanted themselves a delivery, and they didn't want to pay for it. Thought they would impress the Deliverator with a baseball bat. The Deliverator took out his gun, centered its laser doohickey on that poised Louisville Slugger, fired it. The recoil was immense, as though the weapon had blown up in his hand. The middle third of the baseball bat turned into a column of burning sawdust accelerating in all directions like a bursting star. Punk ended up holding this bat handle with milky smoke pouring out the end. Stupid look on his face. Didn't get nothing but trouble from the Deliverator.

Since then the Deliverator has kept the gun in the glove compartment and relied, instead, on a matched set of samurai swords, which have always been his weapon of choice anyhow. The punks in Gila Highlands weren't afraid of the gun, so the Deliverator was forced to use it. But swords need no demonstrations.

The Deliverator's car has enough potential energy packed into its batteries to fire a pound of bacon into the Asteroid Belt. Unlike a bimbo box or a Burb beater, the Deliverator's car unloads that power through gaping, gleaming, polished sphincters. When the Deliverator puts the hammer down, shit happens. You want to talk contact patches? Your car's tires have tiny contact patches, talk to the asphalt in four places the size of your tongue. The Deliverator's car has big sticky tires with contact patches the size of a fat lady's thighs. The Deliverator is in touch with the road, starts like a bad day, stops on a peseta.

Why is the Deliverator so equipped? Because people rely on him. He is a roll model. This is America. People do whatever the fuck they feel like doing, you got a problem with that? Because they have a right to. And because they have guns and no one can fucking stop them. As a result, this country has one of the worst economies in the world. When it gets down to it-talking trade balances here-once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here-once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel-once the Invisible Hand has taken all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity-y'know what? There's only four things we do better than anyone else:

  • music
  • movies
  • microcode (software)
  • high-speed pizza delivery

The Deliverator used to make software. Still does, sometimes. But if life were a mellow elementary school run by well-meaning education Ph.D.s, the Deliverator's report card would say: "Hiro is so bright and creative but needs to work harder on his cooperation skills."

So now he has this other job. No brightness or creativity involved-but no cooperation either. Just a single principle: The Deliverator stands tall, your pie in thirty minutes or you can have it free, shoot the driver, take his car, file a class-action suit. The Deliverator has been working this job for six months, a rich and lengthy tenure by his standards, and has never delivered a pizza in more than twenty-one minutes.

-- Snow Crash

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I get angry enough that a cop pulling me over for speeding carries a gun, or that every emergency call needs to be responded to by jackbooted, militarized thugs when less than 15% ever involve violence. I can't imagine living in a country where every scared little baby had easy access to firearms.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The thin bread line will always be more dangerous than the blue one

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yep, delivery drivers are twice as likely to be shot at as cops. Always respect the thin bread crust.

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[–] gentooer@programming.dev 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not an American, but I really don't get these stories. It has to be legal to enter somebody's driveway, right? How else are you supposed to ring someone's doorbell?

[–] Liz@midwest.social 35 points 7 months ago (8 children)

It absolutely is and the people who shoot at others for showing up on their property are 100% paranoid assholes watching too much Fox News. Hell, you can even legally camp on private property as long as you're not within view of the house. I don't suggest doing that, on account of the crazies.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 34 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Trespassing isn't established until you've been told to leave and don't do so (hence why we have no trespassing signs), the shooter had no right to fire shots at this guy. He should go straight to prison.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Found the mugshot. Looks like the kind of chud who’s scared of his own shadow. Fucking asshole

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If I were that boys dad, Hell hath no furry like what I would do to that shooter.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 27 points 7 months ago (6 children)
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