The greeks had colonies everywhere. Odessa and Marseille started as greek colonies. They copied the phoenician model of "where there is sea, we can colonize, reinforce, conquer and trade with".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_colonisation

And then Alexander the OK conquered the "entire" world. After his death, his empire was split into multiple hellenic(ie greek) kingdoms. Greek became the lingua franca, since the ruling class was greek, and greek culture was spread everywhere. Thats why the New Testament was written in greek.

Hanukkah is actually the celebration of the uprising of the jews against their greek rulers. If you are somewhat familiar with the history of the era, you might have heard about the Seleucids or the Ptolemies. Those were greek kingdoms. Cleopatra was a Ptolemy and she was the first in her dynasty who bothered to learn egyptian. All previous Ptolemy rulers only spoke greek, their court was greeks and some hellenized(greekified) jews and egyptians. The Ptolemies were extremely incestuous.

Then the romans came and conquered most of that. Some other greek kingdoms were taken back by their local population. Funnily enough, the last independent "greek" kingdom that survived was the most remote one, the Indo-Greek Kingdom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Greek_Kingdom

An indogreek kingdom that fought chinese raiders. Thats an interesting crossover.

[–] rumschlumpel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They had colonies all over the mediterranean and middle east. Not so much north of the alps.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I mean germanic people/vikings raided/ruled southern Europe. The Mediterranean Sea was hugely important for trade and civilization, throughout the ages. Athens was a french duchy for a couple centuries, ruled by francs. Alps is not as isolating as, the Sahara desert. You have navigable rivers like Danube and southern France with access to the Mediterranean sea.

Does your average norwegian have some greek dna? Maybe not. But ultimately everyone fucked everyone and people fucked people near them. And the Mediterranean Sea facilitated a lot of fucking, trading and conquering between the countries that had access to it.

It's like saying "the mongols never conquered Greece, therefore greeks dont have mongol dna". The mongols fucked with turkic people and turkic(turks) people fucked with greek people. So i am sure greeks have some mongol dna.

There is this funny video of turkish youtubers who did dna tests

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TStTmMCtgBk

And many of them have majority greek dna or a big part of greek dna.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Not if they are Asian, Aboriginal Australian, or Pacific Islander

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We should work 2 hours at max, sleep 8 hours and spend the remaining 14 hours chugging wine and having sex, and no one can convince me otherwise.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

That is the dreamscape I want to live in... No greed, no capitalism, just playing chess and eating figs.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

They didn't account for all the work that making, maintaining, and designing new machines would be