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    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 76 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    This got me to convince my wife to switch to Linux again. She had the last Windows device in our household. She needed it for proprietary kitchen planners.

    Now she's ranting about enshittification.

    [–] aniki@lemm.ee 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    proprietary.... kitchen planners? wtf? wtf even is a kitchen planner?

    That seems like the easiest thing to replace with something open source.

    https://mealie.io/

    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    A kitchen planner is a program that lets you enter your room dimensions and then lets you fit kitchen cupboards, shelfs, cabinets and appliances in there. Ideally it comes with everything your supplier or contractor has on offer. Especially for colors and designs, but more importantly dimensions.

    Luckily they are usually web based nowadays.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    I totally misunderstood.

    If possible you could have her try http://www.sweethome3d.com/

    [–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I like Sweet Home 3D. I'm slowly building my house's floor plan and laying out furniture using it. Just using it sporadically once every few weeks. It'll be done eventually.

    I'm hoping to use it in Home Assistant with ha-floorplan (https://experiencelovelace.github.io/ha-floorplan/) so that I can have a floor plan with things overlaid on it (lights, temperature, etc) that you can tap to toggle.

    [–] aniki@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

    Oh interesting! I was thinking of planning in the kitchen not planning for a kitchen build. That makes WAY more sense!

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Have you not tried to run that software using proton?

    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Outside of games Wine still doesn't cut it for many programs. Plus this was before Proton.

    [–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    I see 😁 I plan to test a lot of windows software if it runs on proton 😂 it’s more fun than gaming for me: getting stuff to work that I’ll never really need

    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 6 months ago

    Thank you for your service! o7

    Be sure to add your findings to Wine's AppDB.

    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Right now my computer isn't supported by Windows 11 so I have some time. But seeing this crap coming eventually in my future, I started dual booting Linux Mint to see if I could live with it. Turns out I like it better than windows. I haven't booted my window partition in weeks. When I finally upgrade my computer it will probably be running solely on Linux now and maybe have Windows 7 running in a virtual box for the very few programs I still need it for.

    None of this would have happened had Microsoft not pushed their corporate enshitification past my threshold. Thanks Microsoft.

    [–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Linux Mint is the shit if you want a to have just a smooth seamless transition from Windows or a Linux OS that just works.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    I pre-ordered a Framework 16 laptop and will probably try Linux Mint Debian Edition on it when it arrives.

    Debian Edition because I prefer Debian over Ubuntu.

    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    What is your reason to pick Debian over Ubuntu?

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    [–] aPirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

    I did the same a year ago and then I quite quickly switched over completely to Linux mint.

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    [–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

    Worked on me. I left Win10 behind for linux a couple months ago. I installed Win11 in dual boot with an eval license but I just don't use it anymore. I'll probably just nuke it when the eval expires.

    [–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Didn't the start menus have ads for several years now?

    [–] mbfalzar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Windows 10 definitely has but they don't come back once you delete them, which is garbage but less garbage

    [–] captain_oni@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    wasn't the candy crush one notorious for being always reinstalled with every minor update?

    Asking bc I haven't used windows since 10 came out (using w10 at work, but it's the enterprise version)

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    [–] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Do people seriously install the optional updates?

    [–] knolord@lemmy.world 84 points 6 months ago

    Don't worry, the next "mandatory" cumulative update will take care of that, even if you aren't installing it yourself.

    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
    [–] Hubi@feddit.de 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Microsoft is the "Linux salesman of the year" because most people switching to Linux do it just because Windows has become so terrible.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Really wish people gave Linux a fair shot instead of considering a $3,000 notebook from Apple. Maybe it's mostly journalist that talk about it every time Microsoft fucks up.

    [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

    So, as a software engineer who has also used Linux for decades, I get what you’re saying, but the simple fact is that Apple stuff tends to be way more rock-solid reliable for “normal users” (browsing, email, etc - basically, UI- and human-focused tasks) simply because they have vertically integrated everything.

    That’s why their stuff “just works” pretty much always for simple activities - because when you control the chip architecture, instruction set, system hardware and integration, OS, the app code, and everything else I forgot to mention, you can do some really cool and hacky things to make the user experience incredible, but that cross some boundaries that a fully black-boxed architecture (that is: a design that strictly followed the hardware specs and didn’t rely on any nonstandard tricks or end-running of normal interfaces) likely wouldn’t.

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

    I get why people do it. I just hate the proposition of throwing out a perfectly good computer that's potentially upgradable and certainly more repairable compared to a Mac.

    Ask anyone who had their Mac break and the answer is usually it can't be fixed get a new one. Their hardware feels nice but reducing e-waste is a high priority in my book. MacBooks in particular don't have a great track record for longevity when heavily used, most cheap laptops don't.

    An interprise computer designed to be repaired would always be a better option for professionals and individuals alike but even better is one that you already own.

    [–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    To get someone to explain the joke, you have to spell it "Petah".

    [–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 months ago

    Still not getting it.

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    [–] thorbot@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

    It’s funny because the modern consumer doesn’t even care, everything is ad ridden these days, they won’t even notice. But yeah, fuck that noise. I slipstream windows for a reason (the reason is I have to use windows to support my IT customers 🥲)

    [–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    yooo, I haven't used Win in a whileeee. did they move the start menu to the center of the panel?

    [–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Yup. Imo made the entire ui so much worse all in an effort to blur the line between macos and Windows.

    Windows 10 already required 3rd party software for me to use it. Windows 11 was a complete no-go for me from the moment I saw it. I'm so glad my OS drive died last year, it was the push I needed to go Linux only.

    [–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    GTFO here! That is sooooo much more inconvenient since it will block the view of anything you have open on that screen, and it just feels completely odd. wowwww.

    [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    You can move it back to the left, but I agree that MS seem to be trying to make it look like iOS for some reason

    [–] eric5949@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Windows 11 made it so you can't move the taskbar to the side anymore either.

    [–] summerof69@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I can't believe this is still not possible to do. I could create an endless amount of panels and move them anywhere I want in Linux 20 years ago, but a corporation with a three trillion dollars market cap can't do that in 2024??

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    [–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

    by default yes, this can be changed back though

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    [–] 01011@monero.town 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    I haven't used Windows in so long. I wasn't aware this was a thing.

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Added this week, optional as the post says

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    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    They have been there for a long time

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