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[–] DigitalWanderer@lemmy.world 287 points 1 year ago (16 children)

not if you raise the black flag

[–] Flanhare@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I did that many years ago and the fact that all content is in one place instead of multiple apps is so nice.

[–] Kamikazimatt@sh.itjust.works 101 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I miss the early days of Netflix when that held true too. If I remember right piracy was down too. But everyone wanted a piece of the stupid pie and we’re back to where we started all over again

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My Plex Server is a bastion of hope. I’m not paying for another streaming service ever again.

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[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 142 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Costs of streaming from my Plex server haven't changed.

[–] NoStressyJessie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 124 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Still better than dealing with ads. That's my red line.

I absolutely refuse to watch programming with ads, free or paid. I won't do it. My time is limited and I'm not every going to willingly hand over a portion of my life to advertisements.

I'm never going back. If ad-free options go away or become too expensive, I'll simply stop watching shit. There isn't a price at which ad-supported programming becomes attractive.

I'd love to see the Weird Al movie. I won't, however, because Roku won't let me pay to watch it.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So watch it pirated. They get $0 either way.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 77 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This is a lousy article rehashing an article behind a paywall.

The cost they have is $87 a month. There is so much that's confusing about this. They don't specify how many streaming services they are counting in that, but it's a good guess that is about 5, each at about $17 a month. I feel I have too many streaming services and share accounts with family, and I can stream from about 7, pay for one and watch 1.5. If I couldn't share accounts, I wouldn't have the accounts. I pretty much watch star trek and whatever show someone tells me to watch.

They also don't specify what $87 a month gets you in cable. Around me that's about basic cable prices, which is significantly less content presented in a less convenient format and is almost entirely reruns filled to brim with commercials.

Not only is the article missing key information it also misrepresents the information it has.

Note: I'm sure people will tell me to pirate everything, but there are reasons to not pirate. And it doesn't address that this is a poorly written article giving incomplete and incorrect information.

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[–] PhiAU@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Back to the high seas it is.

I'm not paying for 5 streaming services to watch 1 show on each. So now I'm paying for no streaming services.

Convenience as a reasonable price was the deal. It it neither convenient nor reasonably priced any more.

Cable TV all over again. Region locked DVD all over again.

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[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 66 points 1 year ago (24 children)

I pay for Hulu, Max, Disney+, Prime, and get Netflix for free. Half the time, I still can't find the show or movie I want to watch. But 99.99% of the time I can find a torrent for it within 20 seconds of searching. Not only is pirating cheaper, but it's more convenient and more user friendly these days.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find it funny as hell that when I search for "where can I stream X?" Most of the time, I can only watch the thing on a pirate streaming site, unless I want to pay $15.99 for a single viewing on Amazon. lol fuck that.

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[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Lol...wtf is this trash article...Netflix is struggling to survive. Bullshit, they made 12B profit last year.

The article makes it out like all the big players are at a loss...they're not...they brining in Bs in profit.

The price hikes are greed, and of course the consumers will pay it.

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[–] LightDelaBlue@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (11 children)

the sea is still here my friend.

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[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Disney+ have increased the price cause theyre losing customers. That seems like it will work.

[–] Techmaster@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

OMG the house is on fire, quick, grab the flame thrower!

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 year ago (23 children)
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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However, media execs acknowledged that the prices being charged by streaming services were unsustainable, and that a “crash” would follow – where companies would be forced to increase prices or go out of business.

Absolutely nobody believes you.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They won’t go out of business… they just won’t double revenue year over year. God forbid your business doesn’t grow. We need endless growth! Unlimited growth, even in a finite world.

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[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

If anybody is interested: an old workstation/server costs about 100€, a 2TB external Hdd 50€, that's about all you need to self-host your Netflix.

to proceed flash a Linux distro of your choice (I recommend Debian 12 stable) follow a tutorial on YT on how to install it, it's very simple.

Download and configure jellyfin. Open the 8096/8099 port on your router.

If you live in a country where downloading "Linux ISOs" is frowned upon, be sure to use a VPN while downloading the latest Linux Mint release for your jellyfin server.

Load those fancy new kali Linux live CDs on your jellyfin servers, download clients for all your devices and enjoy!

Guides for everything I said can be found online, expecially on YouTube.

Just to add: jellyfin is free and open source: you know it does not spy on you and it does not build a profile on you to then sell your data to ad companies, a huge plus if you ask me.

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[–] Chadarius@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That article is full of it. I was paying $120-150/month for cable on top of Internet. YoutubeTV is still only $75. I don't even bother with YoutubeTV anymore. That was way too much money per month and despite 100+ channels, there was almost nothing worth while to watch. I'm not paying $75/month for Saturday Night Live a few times per year and MSNBC on in the background while I work.

I have Netflix and Disney+. When the kids are gone I will also get rid of those. Netflix is a joke now. It takes me so much time scrolling to find a show that I even want to watch, that I usually fall asleep before that can happen. Disney+ filled their service with horrid crap from Star Wars, Marvel, and other formerly beloved intellectual property that they have sullied and ruined.

Bottom line. The Streaming services are just as bad or worse than cable was and is. The quality of the shows is mostly so low that there is nothing worth paying $75, $20, $15, or even $5 per month for. I will happily pay zero because that is what streaming and cable shows are worth, for the most part, right now.

If anyone would please just make some quality shows I would happily pay a reasonable price for it. There has been maybe one show this entire year that thought was good and that was Star Trek Strange New Worlds. Guess what? It isn't worth paying Paramount+ for a whole year just for one show. Sorry, but they all need to get their act together. Peak TV is long gone. It is Peak Crap TV now.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

Severance on Apple was outstanding!

The Expanse on Amazon is good.

DS9 on Paramount.

Seinfeld on Netflix.

The thing is that I'm not interested in paying for a different service for every single show. Star Trek used to be on Netflix until Paramount got greedy and decided to spin up their own shitty service. You used to be able to get almost everything with 1-2 subscriptions. We used to pirate until Netflix and Amazon made good enough products that people decided they were worth the money.

These media companies fought tooth and nail against streaming, but Netflix made it possible. Netflix proved the business model. Now everyone wants to pull their content and put up their own shitty service with barely functional controls. They fought against progress until progress proved profitable, and now they want the whole pie. Fuck them. We're going back to piracy.

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[–] adriaan@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I wish there was a way to support the production, actors, writers, vfx artists, animators, etc. of good shows adequately while getting the piracy experience. This system really just fucking sucks. Even if you pay exorbitant amounts to streaming services, the people that made the art get jack shit.

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[–] StewartGilligan@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Oh, you mean to tell me that paying for a gazillion streaming services individually is somehow more expensive than bundling them all together with cable? Who could have seen that coming?

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't know if you were old enough to pay for cable when that was normal. But I have never felt so ripped off as I did when I was paying $100/month for 50 channels when 10 of them were news channels, 10 of them were church channels, 15 of them were shopping channels, 10 of them were in Spanish, and the other 5 I might watch sometimes but 95% of what was on was junk and they ALL played more commercials than actual content.

I went from that to piracy. Then the streaming services came and they became more convenient. I am more than ready to raise the black flag again and dig my peg leg out of the closet.

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Remember when all those articles about 'cord cutting' was a thing. How streaming ushered in a new age.

So what's this going to be called? Are people going to switch back to the cable? Are TiVo stocks about to go skyrocket? Or is pirating about to see an all time surge? Since storage has never been cheaper, VPNs are mainstream (you can't watch YouTube without hearing about it), the number of applications to help facilitate it has never been more user friendly and plentiful, and internet speeds have only increased...

I mean, I know what a bunch of people here will do, but I mean the general public at large. Because it's hard not to notice those price increases, especially if you have more than one service. Because their price increases (based on percent) is far out pacing the pay increase people are getting. I already cancelled my Netflix (due to policy changes even though they didn't affect me, price increases, and their response to the writers strike).

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[–] moog@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

yeah but with cable you pay to watch ads.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Shocking no one the unlimited growth mindset fucks something up.

[–] zerbey@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finally? It's cost more than cable in my area for some time now. I gave up on pirating almost completely when it was just Netflix and Hulu. Now every single network has their own streaming service and they all charge a premium.... sorry guys, back to flying the Jolly Roger for me.

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[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But the sea is rising forcing people to become pirates.

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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

I think this article wreaks of corporate backsludge. The entire premise operates under the notion that these services are expensive to sustain and expensive to furnish.

But let’s not forget that they took the lions share of their content from pre existing IPs that were already paid for (millions times over from grossing numbers alone). They are taking the Lion King you grew up, and reselling it back to you. They’ve done this after every technological generational shift. VHS to CD to BR to Digital. Same Lion King.

Just because they want to boost profits 10,000% every quarter does not mean it’s anything more than an entirely artificial metric.

To me I read this as we need to make people more docile and accepting of the penetration. “Oh right, I guess it was always coming” is a much more flaccid mind set than being pissed over the arrogant corporate greed.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Canada, cable packages are still pretty freaking expensive.

But as streaming prices increase, we're closing our accounts on an the platforms. I just shut down my Netflix account due to their new policy and pricing. Next is probably going to be Disney who's going to add commercials soon.

If there are going to be ads, it better be free. I'm not paying to see commercials. I'll use Tubi and Pluto instead and I'll use torrents and set up my own shared media server at home.

It's not like Disney and Netflix and Amazon aren't making any money. They're making record profits while the actors and writers are on strike. Fuck em and their greed.

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[–] MossBear@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They can't even begin to comprehend my ability to just re-watch 90's sci-fi.

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[–] exohuman@programming.dev 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Steaming is still more cost effective than cable. And most importantly, I don’t suffer through ads. I don’t pay equipment leases and fees. I watch everything on my own schedule. Cable cost me anywhere from $150 to $200 a month for my household for basic. With streaming I am paying about $45-55 a month. I only watch a limited amount of any TV anyway. I pay for YouTube, Netflix, Disney+, and 1 random. That’s it. Sometimes, that random is Peacock or Paramount or HBO Max, or Apple or whatever.

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[–] ugjka@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But is cable TV a better experience?

[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's honestly not because you have to watch shows (more or less) on their schedule. The true advantage of streaming is that you can easily pause and rewind.

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[–] faintedheart@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Start using torrents. The good old ways are better. Don't feed the corporate motherfuckers undeserved money. I even cheated disney+ for a subscription. I was getting disney+ subscription for one year (with ads) in my credit card if I spent a certain amount. I spent that amount and got the subscription for free and cancelled the order and got my money back. Now I have one year of disney+ which I will watch in the browser with ublock origin. No ads with all content unlocked. Do I care or regret?. No fucking way.

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[–] almost1337@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The trouble is, cable has very little to offer in terms of interesting shows.

[–] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So does any single streaming service.

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