Agree with the sentiment but these online petitions are worthless in my opinion
this post was submitted on 11 Mar 2024
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Absolutely, first I think it is a provincial jurisdiction, and for instance QuΓ©bec already said that they will align with NY state jurisdiction, so this petition is useless.
I'll agree, with one exception (which might prove the rule): www.ourcommons.ca which hosts official House of Commons petitions (I believe some provinces have a similar website).
No. I want daylight savings time all year round. Standard time is balls.
I couldn't care less about which mode we're on. It's like debating if we should remain sitting down or standing up to avoid getting punched in the face or the dick. Just stop fucking hitting us!
I want more sunlight in the evening for my activities after my 9-5 job!
What's the fucking point of having sunlight at 5am if I'm fucking sleeping?
Maybe we also should talk about not needing to work so many hours that it's necessary to ration the sun then, too.
9-5 is not too many hours. It having to be 9-5 is a bigger problem.
If this guy could work 8-4 instead, the clock choice would not matter.
9-5 is not too many hours.
Yes, it is.
ooh, maybe that's what we should do... during the winter months when there's less daylight we can shift our working hours, then in the summer months we can shift our working hours back. Then there's no need to change the time!
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Some good analysis on why having summer time as the permanent time would be good for safety
https://drivingintherealworld.com/turning-back-time-a-strike-against-pedestrians-literally/
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Join the petition to ask the Canadian government to adopt Daylight Time all year round.
I ask the Canadian Government to finally stop Daylight Saving Time and enact Permanent Standard Time.
So uhh.. which is it?
I want the current time (DST) forever and will sign accordinly
It was the latter. Op seems to have updated their post accordingly.
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Good initial, but why not do a proper Citizen Petition in your state instead of a scam for profit website?
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Honest question. Can someone tell me of any time an online petition actually amounted to change in the real world?
I'm not sure about these "change" petitions which always seemed to me as just a way to gather user data. But, go to the House of Commons website where you will be able to view actual petitions to the government of Canada. There, you can sign them and/or create your own. If you're lucky, the government may even respond with some thoughts/excuses. π
I just hate how in Toronto the sun comes up/goes down an hour too early year round
This wonβt change that though, I need to live at the western edge of a timezone
I think the whole world just adopt a single time. We'd just get used to midday being 9pm and eating dinner at 2am. No more time zones to worry about.
Not as simple as that because first: Timezones make it pretty obvious that you have to think or even calculate if it's currently the day or middle of the night. If you want to call someone in another country it's obvious that you'd first have to figure out their local time. If everyone used the same time than this would be easy, but you would've still have to figure out which time range is day time and night time so no benefit there.
For a lot of countries that would also mean that every "solar day" will be two calender days. You wake up at 19:00 March 1st. and just before lunch the date switches to March 2nd. It would be a mess.
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Worldwide UTC now!
UTC is a thing and used by many industries!
China only has has one time zone for the whole country. Daylight savings can go, but I can understand that because of the earths orbit around the sun there is a need for time zones, I think most people agree that wherever you are, 6am should be morning time, unless everyone wants to move over to military time, and just have a 24 hour clock. It would take some getting used to, but that would be the only way to truly get rid of time zones.
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IIRC didn't a recent prime minister (probably Trudeau) say that we would do it if the US also did it? I agree that DST is a mistake but I think doing it without coordination of the US would be cause fare more pain than benefits.
The EU also recommended member states to stop doing DST if I recall correctly. So it seems like if the US can be convinced the world would pretty quickly move away from DST.
On the other hand aren't the health concerns mostly bunk? I remember seeing a lot of studies that noted an uptick of various issues during a DST transition but closer inspection revealed that the vast majority of this effect was time-shifting of issues that were going to happen anyways. Basically if you were going to have a heart attack in the next week you will have it during the jump, but if you look at the week or month overall there was no statically significant change. I do admit that I am behind on research here though. Are there any well reviewed meta-analysis that are showing significant results?
Yes, there is some decent research on this though nothing super definitive because most research is still very local. Specially on traffic accidents, most security experts agree that having DST permanent would be beneficial.
I'm the opinion that having fewer crashes would offset the mild annoyance of being 1 hour out of sync with the US, but I'm not too strong on this stance either. We have other things that have higher return for same level of effort to implement... like better car lighting regulations that as always the US (NHTSA) is fucking motionless and we're locked to them.
I'd put all chips to eliminating RTOR but I don't expect to see that in my lifetime.
Join the petition to ask the Canadian government to adopt Daylight Time all year round.
I ask the Canadian Government to finally stop Daylight Saving Time and enact Permanent Standard Time.
Is the first line supposed to be Standard Time?
Get rid of dst yes, not make it permanent.
Doesn't matter. We can change the schedule instead of changing the clocks.
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