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I signed up kbin.social but have since decided to go all in on Lemmy. I’ve tried all day to delete my account on kbin but it won’t let me. Once I click the delete confirmation pop up it simply reloads the feed and keeps your account.

Be warned. Currently you have no control over your data there. I think that settles it for me. I won’t be using that service again.

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[–] simple@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bit of an overreaction, it's just that kbin is experiencing a lot of server issues and is insanely slow lately. Your request will probably go through later.

[–] ghostalmedia@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

100% this. I’ll bet you’ll find a bunch of failed requests in the inspector. Things are being hugged to death right now.

[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't control the data either way. Federation and deletion are in conflict. Even if you deleted the account, there is no guarantee it would be deleted from other servers that the data was copied to. (And to be clear, Lemmy has exactly the same issue.)

[–] ghostalmedia@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, you can't unsend an email either.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Gdpr is not that easy, and the right to be forgotten is certainly more complicated than people are making it out to be. Public facing forum posts have even less protection, for fairly obvious reasons. Now if Lemmy instances were sharing your account information and not deleting that, it gets murkier.

Lemmy should probably keep gdpr and ccpa in mind but public facing forum comments are early qualified under the right to be forgotten unless they meet certain criteria.

[–] problematicconsumer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not sure about kbin but sign-up/account management on lemmy is kinda broken as well. For example lemmy.ml doesn't allow new users to sign up and when you try its just infinite loading with no visible response. Or on beehaw.org where you have to sign up and pray that you're accepted cause otherwise you're just ghosted. There's a long way ahead in terms of UX

[–] thunderbird32@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

I'd imagine the servers were just overloaded. I'd give it some time and try again.

[–] SaltySalamander@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Bud what makes you think you have any control of your data on any instance?

[–] ghostalmedia@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I’m willing to let them slide. Kbin and Lemmy are getting power slammed right now. Requests from clients aren’t going through properly and everything is being held together with duct tape and prayers.

If you find something weird, see if there is community / magazine that makes sense to report the bug to. I don’t think there is any ill intent happening right now. Shits just cracking under the extreme traffic load.

[–] WalterzarBoBalterzar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

One thing that definitely worries me with federation in general is the barrier to entry to hosting an instance is low, by design. On one hand this is great, but on the other hand it means just about anyone can spin up an instance and collect usernames, passwords, emails, etc. from anyone who signs up

I know this is obviously no better than an single giant corporation who can do that. But it's interesting to think about.

I'm definitely not suggesting kbin.social is doing this by the way. Your post just spurred this thought for me

[–] HeartyBeast@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago

Remember folks, use a password manager and get it to create a random strong password for every site you use

[–] Memnarch936@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am once again reminded of the always relevant XKCD comic

I do see and understand the concern, and honestly, I don't see a way around it. At some point, you have to supply some information to access services, especially if you want any sort of customization to your experience. I guess if you are really concerned about it, don't use that email/password/username combo anywhere else.

Edit: Apologies, I am still figuring out how formatting works here.

[–] knova@links.dartboard.social 1 points 1 year ago

People should be using a password manager in 2023. No password reuse if you automatically generate new 20+ character passwords for each website or service you use.

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you tried to contact the admins? Their servers are under immense load, it could be a problem related to that.

[–] rimu@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is only one admin and it is also the only kbin developer.

Kbin is not ready, I'm sad to say.

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

As I understand it, it's still a prototype, the dev didn't expect at all people would use it, that's why it's not ready yet for mass-adoption, tho I like how it's made, it has great potential IMO, it just needs time to get out of prototype phase.

But then we couldn't bait

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