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[–] EarthlingHazard@lemm.ee 103 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's better to link to their github since the website has references to a premium sister project that isn't FOSS: https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool

I haven't used this myself but I'm curious if anyone likes it

[–] exu@feditown.com 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like it very much and thanks to the various extensions it's also trivial to use in Firefox and Libreoffice.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

It works on Firefox/Fennec/other forks on Android.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At last the browser extension is closed source. I don't know the others

https://beehaw.org/comment/893089

[–] mac@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I self host a server. It works on my laptop and android. I like it, but some of the suggestions are bad.

Haven't used grammarly in years, so I can't compare.

[–] Skimmer@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Their extension isn't open source anymore, see here, so I don't recommend it personally, especially with how sensitive the data it collects is, its basically a keylogger, so trust is super important imo.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they don't trust you with the source, you can trust them with your data.

[–] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While I appreciate the sentiment, isn't that effectively the same as "if the restaurant won't give you the complete recipe for their pizza sauce, how do you know they're not trying to poison you?"

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[–] alfisya@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

At least restaurants are subjected to health and safety inspection. Software never have, and right now opening their code is the only way to ensure that.

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Except a restaurant is not asking to log every word of yours in exchange for pizza.

[–] Nia@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ouch, thought that if you used the extension with a self-hosted local server that it was fully open source. Looks like I'll be uninstalling then.

I'm okay with some proprietary extensions and stuff, but when it comes to the stuff that I type, I'd rather be able to know exactly what it's doing with it.

[–] wAkawAka@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Thanks for pointing out! This tool seems to look and work awesome, but non-foss browser extension is an instant 'NO'...

[–] donut4ever@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Damn, I didn't know that. :/

[–] BruceLee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By extension do you mean the browser extensions only or also the add-on for word processor ?

[–] zoe@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

tell me anything that isn't

[–] ddnomad@infosec.pub 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Texts are securely stored

Right, must be military grade encryption

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Note about deepl: according to their EULA they collect all what you type there and use it for training their algorithm. They are much smaller that Google and co, what makes me thinking that your data could be more "visible" in the training results.

The service as such is good, though.

[–] WhiteHotaru@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this is only the case with the free version. Source: I worked with some big German companies which wanted to have an autotranslate function for their software. DeepL was the top choice, because the quality is very good and the data protection agreements for the paid service left no questions.

[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago

Most probably this is correct. One can say the same about most enterprise targeting offers, for example by Microsoft.

People who consider it for private usage should make decisions knowing such details.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

EULA they collect all what you type there and use it for training their algorithm

This isn't the case for some specific corporate contract for the pro version. But, it's not publicly available.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting thought about the visibility

[–] gelberhut@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

Disclaimer: this is a personal impression/thoughts, I could be dramatically wrong here.

[–] WhiteHotaru@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have total different use cases. DeepL is a translator, language tool checks for style and grammar.

I use both frequently and both do a very good job. I have a prime membership of language tool and I like it. Both are German companies and operate under GDPR.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deepl’s “write” tool (the one I linked) gives style suggestions

[–] WhiteHotaru@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I didn’t know that.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

It's not bad at all, and multilingual. I like it as I can write in multiple language making less mistakes.

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[–] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just wish there was a language tool keyboard for android

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can use it in Firefox/Fennec/other forks on Android. It's better than nothing.

[–] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

I am but it would be nice to have it in other apps on my phone

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interestingly I knew about Languagetool long before I got to constantly see Grammarly ads. With the right tools it's useful for checking latex etc.

[–] WndyLady@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use this often when I'm writing articles, it's incredibly easy to use and I've yet to have any issues with it.

I use it on Waterfox, for what it's worth. Absolutely recommend.

[–] Jumper775@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When I switched from FF to WF it was lighter on system resources, faster and cut out a lot of the telemetry included in FF.

I've not used Firefox for well over a year now, so I can't speak to that still being the case, but those were the main draws for me.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I switched off of waterfox and back to firefox with arkenfox user.js when I noticed they were behind on a security update.

[–] TalesFromTheKitchen@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

It's working pretty well for me with integration into Firefox, (libre)office and you can decide if you want to run your own server locally, or rely on their server as a premium subscription.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how grammarly desktop is for privacy

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their whole service is built to collect everything you type.

[–] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Literally a key logger with extra steps.

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