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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 122 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Shooting at desperate prisoners for fun is something the Nazi's used to do.

Fuck israel.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The mask has come off this disgusting colony.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Been off since at least 75 years but I guess it's more off now.

[–] phreekno@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

its never been livestreamed like this though. people are seeing this happen in real-time. instead of taking days to even years to reach people, its getting to us in our hand in minutes if not seconds.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 8 months ago

Yeah, they started out by killing entire villages to take their houses. The whole Zionist project was built on blood.

[–] phreekno@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

its been genocide since day one of the zionist project

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't know how much of the news to believe, but I'm not really on board with all this indiscriminate killing.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I've been to Israel a number of times and have several good friends there. I don't know what to do, really. They would be the ones protesting against Netanyahu, rather than the ones raving in the way of an aid convoy.

The first thing I said after the attacks last October, other than "are my friends okay", was literally "fuck, the response is going to be completely disproportionate". They've got a fucking horrible government and there's an undercurrent of nasty, nationalist Israelis, including literal Jewish supremacists.

I'm not an antisemite - my best friends genuinely are Jewish, that's not a smokescreen. I've been shown more kindness by Jews in my life than by my own family. But I'd say, on balance, I am anti those particular semites. And I think a large percentage of Jews also are. I know my friends will casually say things about the ultra-orthodox community that I definitely can't repeat.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

More Jews live outside Israel than in Israel. Being against the Israeli government doesn't make you an antisemite.

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[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

The "response" has been disproportionate for 60+ years.

At what point are they no longer "responding" and move on to become the aggressors? Because the balance of power there shifted a very long time ago.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They’ve got a fucking horrible government and there’s an undercurrent of nasty, nationalist Israelis, including literal Jewish supremacists.

Let me just say: It's not an undercurrent. The right wing in Israel has been dominant for a long time and is growing. I understand you want to distinguish yourself from Antisemites, but their government is accurately representing their constituents. It's just that more than half their constituents see nothing wrong with genociding Muslims for Lebensraum.

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

70% of eligible voters voted.
the current government's parties were voted in by 49.5% of those voters.
out of those, 14.13% were ultra-orthodox parties who always go with bibi because he gives them everything they want. about half of those are non-zionist.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

I guess it's not half (yet).

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not really on board with all this indiscriminate killing

VERY controversial opinion! It's a good thing this is a safe space where saying such things won't cost you your livelihood!

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not really on board with killing so many children and starving 2.4 million people to death.

Does that make me antisemitic?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not according to sane people, no. According to unhinged mecha-zionists on the other hand..

Ironically, equating the actions of the Israeli government with all of Jewdom is itself EXTREMELY antisemitic.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (105 children)

Biden is really going to let Trump become president again because he won't take serious action.

The US is literally the reason the UN can't do anything.

All you had to do was not be pro genocide Biden. It's such a low fucking bar and that geriatric fuck just can't meet it.

And whether Biden wins or loses, millions will suffer because he was the only other option than trump we were allowed to have.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 42 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I watched Jon Stewarts piece about Israel Palestine and he joked about how the UN can't get anything done with absolutely no mention that it is everyone voting for a ceasefire and the USA voting to veto everything.

It isn't the UN that is doing nothing, it is the veto rules that allows the USA and other countries to throw out the collective good in order to protect empire.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Weird...

I remember him mentioning it in both his recent episodes.

Pretty sure he even mentioned how when the US vetos something like this, we always send a Black person to do the veto. But that bit might have been from somewhere else.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's what I've been trying to tell people for almost two decades: the UN isn't inherently ineffective, but the Big 5 makes it so by vetoing almost every important resolution.

If we take away that veto and grant the UN real enforcement power, it could make the world a much better place for the vast majority of humanity.

The 5 and the billionaires whose interests align with them would never permit such justice, though 😮‍💨

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[–] nihilvain@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As if there wasn't enough hatred towards USA from the Middle East, these actions are showing seeds of hatred towards USA for generations to come. Which can be easily radicalized in the future.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

That's why it's always bullshit that we "need" a close ally there.

We dont. Especially when that "ally" just constantly instigates conflict then drags us into it to back them up.

If we weren't propping up Israel and going after oil, most people in the Middle East wouldn't give two shits about the West.

And without the instability it all causes, there'd be less far right religious extremists running shit. And everyone's lives would be better off

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