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Support and meta community for Beehaw. Ask your questions about the community, technical issues, and other such things here.

A brief FAQ for lurkers and new users can be found here.

Our September 2024 financial update is here.

For a refresher on our philosophy, see also What is Beehaw?, The spirit of the rules, and Beehaw is a Community


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UPDATE: RESULTS HAVE CLOSED! thank you for your participation—we've received over 1,500 responses which is quite a lot more than we expected. aggregated results and community creation decisions should hopefully come in due time.


hello folks!

with our backlog cleared and many new people around, now's a good time to do our first-ever Beehaw Community Survey--the first of what will likely be(e) many to come. this survey should take no more than 5 or 10 minutes to fill out, so we strongly encourage you to do so when you are able to. you can find it at the following link:

Beehaw Community Survey


the survey is comprised of seven optional demographic questions to help us assess the overall identity of our community and three questions relating to Beehaw and the Fediverse. it also asks you about 17 possible communities we are considering and whether you would actively participate in them if made.

the survey will be open for approximately a week. we'll definitely close it before July 1, so please get your responses in before that date. it'll also be locally pinned for at least the next three days or so, so please mind that. thanks!


results will also be aggregated and posted on here in a summary sometime thereafter. no ETA on that though.

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[–] lumarius@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would be interested in a vegan & vegetarian community, but since vegetarian is a superset of a vegan diet, the combination would make the community effectively vegetarian. One of my favourite communities on reddit was r/vegan, where the discussions were usually much broader than just food-related, and on the other hand there was no need to look through delicious-looking food pictures to find out they were not vegan when looking for food. Hence, I would appreciate a specifically vegan community even more.

[–] JCDenton@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly. Veganism is not only a diet so it doesn’t make sense for vegetarianism (whatever that means) to be mixed in this.

Vegetarians also like to mix vegetables with dead animals and other animal secretions. I ask the admins to please reconsider this.

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[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am not a fan either people, but remember to propose a solution when you complain.

It must be free and as easy as Google Forms...

  • Framaforms (limited to 1000 responses)
  • Office365 (wait... No)
  • SurveyMonkey (limited to 10 questions)
  • LimeSurvey (freemium)
  • AirTable (I don't know, never used it...)

There are dozens more.

Again, I feel you, but if your reluctance is based on digital privacy, the rabbit hole will drive you mad.

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Personally speaking, I'm not opposed to paying money but LimeSurvey literally doesn't have a tier that would allow us to have everyone on the instance answer and it's ludicrously expensive. The closest they have is 10000 per year

The only realistic option for us would be to selfhost form software and personally, I don't feel like putting more weight on our sysadmins at the moment..

[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not saying anyone should use something else just because Google bad. When I survey my students I use our school's MS Forms thing. If I want about 100 answers I use Framaforms. If I had to survey a large group of people like this, I would go for Google.

And, wow, I had no idea that LimeSurvey charged so much.

[–] hyazinthe@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Cryptpad would be a good option

[–] wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Nice survey!

Personally I'd like there to be more bee puns in the community names, but that's just bee

... I'll see myself out.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I just wanted to say that I feel very strongly that, should it be implement, the community be called WorkReform, not AntiWork.

In the spirit of Beehaw, I think AntiWork goes against the ethos of "Bee Kind" as it sets the entire community up to be adversarial to anyone who enjoys work/finds work meaningful. Work reform is a much more inclusive goal.

I had a hard time with that one since I would not join an anti work community, but I was fairly active on /r/WorkReform.

[–] Manticore@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The miscommunication there is in the definition of 'work'.

They don't want to abolish employment, labour, or community contribution. They want to abolish work - the idea of a labour system that is tantamount to indentured servitude, labour as an obligation, labour for labour's sake, labour at the expense of one's wellbeing and QoL.

Labour you enjoy or find meaningful isn't 'work' under that interpretation, and arguing for reforming 'work' like that is a soft-serve that ultimately ensures those kinds of labour continue to exist.

I agree the name itself is provocative, because the meaning of the word 'work' has come to refer to all labour as a whole. (Mostly because almost all labour these days is work, now.)

But their intent is not to abolish productivity, or that those who are productive and enjoy their labour are somehow wrong. It's about pushing for everybody to be able to choose labour that is meaningful to them, so they can have that too.

So while a given individual within the movement may have joined because they interpreted it that way, they are minorities, and not the movement's intended goal upon its founding.

I support language that is less likely to be misinterpreted by extremists, but that may not be feasible, and the movement itself is not against Beehaw's values of community health. The majority of those in the movement are heavily interested in the wellbeing of our labouring communities.

Maybe something like c/HealthyLabour, c/LabourRights, or c/LabourEthics?

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[–] rowinofwin@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Seconded, a positive mindset is what we are cultivating and that starts at the name. It is also clearer, we all know that reform is possible but some people interperet antiwork as full work abolishment, something way down the line of work reform.

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[–] Dandylion@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you for this, I love that you're working to make this a better place and being all inclusive in the process. Y'all are awesome!

[–] localhost@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it may be good idea to also add a separate general medicine-focused community.

Health communities on social media tend to gravitate towards wellness and less-than-evidence-based practices - which is fine on its own, but may not be what some would expect by the name alone.

[–] Jitzilla@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

YES. I loved r/nursing and r/medicine for their focus on evidence based medicine. I’m not interested in a facebook mommy group vibe.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Q: Do you have an account on beehaw?
A: No.
The end.

Well that was fast. Much less than the mentioned 5 to 10 minutes.

[–] Doombot1@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you guys consider creating any sort of houseplants community? Plantclinic community, and/or succulents community? If I’m being entirely honest those are the ones I miss the most, and the ones on other communities still aren’t very active/don’t exist (in the case of succulents, as far as I can tell!). /c/greenspace helps to fill the void a bit but doesn’t quite do it

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[–] eclipse@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Living for the "be(e)". Already answered btw 🫶

[–] jackgreenearth@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would love to be able to fill this out, but unfortunately it is a Google Form

[–] InevitableList@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

You can respond "prefer not to say" to all the personal questions.

[–] noodlejetski@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

yeah, I try to avoid giving Google more data whenever I can

[–] d4r1us_drk@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Please we need that Retro community!

[–] wulfinna@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I personally would love to see some spirituality communities, as a trans pagan.

[–] kotatsuyaki@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Minor complaint - my country / region (Taiwan) is not listed in the "countries" dropdown list, and Kosovo is also missing. Consider asking for "country or region" instead of "country" and include states with limited recognition when asking nationality.

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Added! They are sovereign states - they are countries.

[–] kotatsuyaki@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's real quick! Thanks for including my country :)

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Pfft, 30mins is not that quick, no problem!

[–] TheOtherJake@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't want anything to do with google, and I do not knowingly post personal data on their servers.

[–] meoooow@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for pointing this out.

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[–] sparse_neuron@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Done, looking forward to the community grow over time.

[–] Manticore@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd use both askBeehaw and AMA if they were moved into subcommunities, but I don't think they need to be. They're basically just 'topic is you' or 'topic is me', which is what Chat is for. If anything, Chat is more-or-less askBeehaw right now, and we don't have enough notable users to sustain an AMA.

So I ticked that I'd use them, but I don't think they're necessary - at least not until beehaw is far, far bigger. I even suspect Chat would be almost empty if an askBeehaw was created right now.

And a community for the Labradors among us that want to show off our favourite toys is a great idea; but not as specific as TIL. Especially since 'TIL' can often overlap with 'TIFU' (eg: "Today I learned that you can't put standard dishsoap in a dishwasher.")

Something that encompasses 'TIL', but also 'mildlyinteresting', 'YSK', 'lifehacks' etc sounds neat. More of a 'fun fact' area where people show off pictures of cool bugs they found, or ideas they want to share. I just don't know what you'd call it. (And the TIFU-type posts will still suit Chat.)

[–] Hylirica@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should call it CoolBeans and it can be for anything that makes you say, "Cool beans, dude."

[–] realChem@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago
[–] elleyena_rose@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Got my responses in! Can't wait to see how things go.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just want to give a quick shout out that the questions are exceptionally well worded for encouraging valuable feedback. It's super easy to ask “What communities are you interested in”, but “What communities would you contribute to” is a different, and more valuable question. This is one of the most well-thought-out surveys I've filled out for an online community in a while. Is one of the admins possibly a sociologist, demographer, or otherwise someone who writes surveys for a living? Or did you just write a really good-ass survey based on your experiences taking not so good surveys?

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[–] hakerdefo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can I make a wee suggestion?

It'll be nice if you guys can use something other than "Google Forms" for future surveys. Something a bit more privacy respecting than "Google Forms" will be a better choice for platform like Beehaw. A few suggestions,

EUSurvey
Nextcloud Forms
LiberaForms
OhMyForm
Form Tools

This is just a personal opinion expressed with a view to improve Beehaw experience. No offense intended.

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

we will investigate these but no promises we'll switch (beyond whether they have the features we need--which i'm not so worried about--ease of access is also a consideration we need to make with surveys. our audience is also not exclusively tech people and we are, bluntly, not nearly as absolutist with the need for privacy as many of the people on lemmy.)

[–] alyaza@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

oh, cost/resources are another consideration. our finances aren't exactly in a place where we can eat huge costs of any kind, so out of hand we're going to be a lot less willing to consider stuff with a big price tag (especially when we can't yet gauge how many surveys we'll be doing and on what schedule)

[–] hakerdefo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Ease of access is for sure an important thing.

[–] vinniep@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was also a little turned around when I saw a Google form show up.

I think the long-term answer here is for a native poll feature right in the platform. There's a feature request for this on the Lemmy github project.

Until then, though, everything's just a temporary placeholder solution.

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Note that for our survey, a poll would not be nearly complex enough.

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[–] Emperor_Zombie@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Retro is an interesting one. A lot of my Reddit subscriptions were related to Vintage collection communities.

[–] UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I personally love delving into retro games and classic movies, so that community would be a natural fit for me!

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