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[–] ki77erb@lemmy.world 67 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

My mother-in-law once said "You know Trump reads his bible every day!"

Completely flabbergasted I said, "How do you know that?? Where did you hear that from? I've never heard any report or mention of that. In fact, when asked what his favorite bible verse was, he couldn't even name one!"

"That's just what they want you to see. They don't tell you the truth."

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Steve@startrek.website 12 points 8 months ago

I call bullshit!

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Propaganda has always worked really well. This whole facepals deal pretty much runs itself!

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

It’s got twice as much Corinthian-ing compared to the original.

[–] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Pictured: an obvious atheist being prayed over by a bunch of Christians he doesn’t understand at all.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 28 points 8 months ago

Trump believes in a god: Money

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 49 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Fucking brainwashed white morons.

Trump has never organically stepped into a church before he had political ambitions.

He’s not even really a Republican.

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat", explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans”.

He is the epitome of RINO (Republican in name only).

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He also said he'd run as a republican because the voters are idiots.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 26 points 8 months ago

"I like how he tells it like it is!"

-idiots

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Well, that was a meme not an actual quote, but he probably thought it was true.

[–] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah he's a life long NYC democrat how on earth do people think he's repub whatsoever

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Also, how many abortions do you think he’s paid for?

[–] Wayren@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Trump? Pay for something? I dunno...

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Isn't there a rule about this in Christianity? Like, a command or something, of which there's ten? Something about not worshipping false idols and not having any gods before Him?

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Whatever people may say, the truth is that modern Christianity is a buffet of beliefs.

Also true that many of these people calling themselves Christian are simply yet another group using religion as a justification for their hatred, as has happened so many times before and will continue to happen in the future.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

"Actually, we put Trump above God, not before him...so it's all good!"

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

He is a golden calf..... Well orange but still his hair is kinda yellow and he used to have a gold toilet.... He might still but who knows.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Prefacing this... Fuck Trump. I'm not religious and not conservative (far from it on both counts). That being said, I grew up around some very religious Christians and this is not people worshiping Trump. This is people "praying over" him.

It's not uncommon for Christians to pray for somebody's safety, success, health, etc. And they'll often do so in their presence by holding a hand or both hands out with their palm(s) pointed towards the one they're praying for. I guess, kind of a way to kind of channel their prayer through them or something. Religious conservatives have enough hypocritical and unethical/immoral views and practices without misconstruing benign and normal practices as aberrant.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 38 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn't say it's "benign." The whole gesture has a self aggrandizing tone to me. "Look at me and how hard I am praying." Only the most full of themselves types of Christians pray this way and in front of cameras.

[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's extremely performative and, from the outside, very occult. Of course they would rage at that idea, which makes it even more idiotic.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Bible also explicitly tells you not to do shit like that.

[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the Bible also says to love your neighbor and give your excess wealth to the needy, these people are well past scripture-based arguments.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Not excess wealth. A fixed portion of your wealth weather you consider it excess or not.

It also warns against allowing anyone in your society to become excessively wealthy in the first place (Deut 17:17)

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well sure, I'm not saying it's good or acceptable to be performative for a monster like Trump. But it's not literal worship, which is what the post claimed.

[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 6 points 8 months ago

I mean, I guarantee Trump thinks it is, and his supporters have been saying he was Chosen by God for years now. It's close enough for me.

Literally, if you say you're a Christian and you support Trump, you care more about Trump than Jesus. Give me all the No-True-Scotsman bs you want, it's objectively accurate according to their own holy texts.

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Matthew 6:1

Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

Matthew 6:5-6

And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Totally normal on-brand Christlike behavior from the right.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Christians can't admit they're doing magic.

[–] anarchost@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I can confirm. For some evangelicals, "laying on of hands" was used on average members of a church who were suffering, sometimes encouraged by the pastor of the church. It's been around since well before Trump.

Pentecostal Christians practice the laying on of hands as part of prayer for divine healing (faith healing) and the anointing of the sick.

You can call it pompous or whatever, but it's definitely not a form of worshiping the person getting hands laid on.

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

That's not praying. They're saluting their fuhrer.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Looks like the room is rehearsing a particular type of salute that went out of style in the mid-40s.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Not only prayers and politics, but blatantly obvious Nazis, too. What an unholy alliance.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Fucking weirdos

[–] Cicraft@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Reminds me of something

[–] Takeshidude@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Christian Nationalism is not Christianity, it is Joel Osteen’s health, wealth, and prosperity message scaled up to the Nation-state instead of the individual

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No true Christian, amirite?

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

There are no Scots in Scotland

[–] anarchost@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

We call fake Republicans RINOs, fake leftists liberals, fake Christians...

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Those Christians outnumber the other kind. So which is real?

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

When you start worshiping Trump, you're on another level of reality far out of ours.

And it's not a good one.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

No True Scotsman

[–] delaunayisation@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It would be funnier if both sides wouldn't employ shamanism.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This was in June 2020, where he was meeting (local) leaders in a church. So, at worst, he was respecting their beliefs by joining in a moment of prayer.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-meets-with-black-leaders-at-local-church-amid-unrest

The post's picture is Trump allowing himself to be the object of worship for a bunch of crazy cultists. Sure, you could say he's just respecting their beliefs (in him as some kind of sub deity/prophet?) but the whole thing is so transparent that it's obviously just a picture of a grifter doing his grift on a bunch of rubes.

Notice the blue curtains and stage lights. The purpose of that meeting was to "promote the brand".

[–] anarchost@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

So, at worst, he was respecting their beliefs by joining in a moment of prayer.

Thanks for reminding me... I just had a flashback to the Obama Muslim conspiracies.

[–] anarchost@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago