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[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 152 points 8 months ago (6 children)

“Welcome to the end of democracy!” Posobiec declared. “We’re here to overthrow it completely. We didn’t get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here,” he said, holding his fist in the air. “That’s right, because all glory is not to government, all glory to God.”

When Democrats raise red flags about Republicans trying to end democracy, maybe listen, because Republicans aren't hiding it anymore.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 69 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Um, that isn't hyperbole or an exaggerated quote. Fucker actually said that during opening day of CPAC.

Steve Bannon, former White House adviser, is heard in the background exclaiming, “All right! Amen!”

The fact that every legitimate Republican didn't denounce them during the rest of CPAC means they are condoning this belief if not outright endorsing it publicly.

At this point anyone not doing everything they can to prevent Trump or other Republicans from gaining executive power is helping them and a traitor. We've long known this is what Republicans want. This is just the all-too-obvious cherry on top.

[–] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

what the hell is a legitimate Republican exactly? They're ALL Nazi's.

[–] maino82@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

You see, if it's a legitimate Republican, the body has a way of shutting down the bullshit so it doesn't get implanted in the brain.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That would include the entire Democratic party, because not only are they not trying to stop Trump or any other Republican from gaining power, they often fund far right extremist Republican candidates in an attempt to give themselves an "easy win".

[–] muse@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You know, I keep having hope not every member of hexbear is an outright moron and they keep proving me wrong again and again

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

I don't know about funding, by Hillary's campaign definitely promoted Trump. This was revealed by WikiLeaks.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A vote for Hindenburg is a vote for Hitler. I don't give a shit what the Dems have to say so long as the only offer they have to stop this is "vote blue forever". Promising that they won't personally end democracy while doing nothing to stop those who will isn't defending democracy, it's using liberal democracy's inevitable death to boost their career via a hostage situation. Wake me up when they promise to put Jack in jail or better yet Hell.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

In any nation with first past the post elections, like the United States, Leftists have exactly one rational voting strategy:

Step 1. Identify the two front-runner parties, and determine which of the two is further left relative to the other.

Step 2. Vote for that party in every single election (don't forget midterms and local elections). Encourage everyone you know to do the same.

Step 3. Once the (relative) left party has an overwhelming majority (over 2/3) and the relative right party becomes vanishingly irrelevant (under 1/3), then split the (relative) left party into its own relative left and right.

Step 4. Repeat steps 1-3 with these new front-runner parties.

Step 5. Iterate step 4 until your relative left party passes election reform such that elections are no longer susceptible to Duverger's Law.

Certainly try to push for reform within the relative left party between elections and during primaries, but at the ballot box the above is the only rational strategy. Voting third party, or refusing to vote the lesser evil, is not a rational strategy.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

I'm glad you're saying this and that OP posted it, I didn't have the heart to. It's so depressing that half our government (not half the people) are trying to make america authoritarian.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Billy, get your guns.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Look, idk about you, but first, this is a whataboutism...

2nd, if it weren't for the dem party's complacency, they should've put an end to Trump's rep. election campaign return, via arrests., since Trump prbly committed a couple of crimes at least to get delayed to hell..

These things are just basic LIBERAL common sense for the Democratic Party, yet they decided to neglect it.

[–] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit. It does not get anymore brazen than this. He flat out called for the end of democracy. This is facsim plain and simple. This mimicks Hitler’s rise to power almost perfectly. Hell, even Texas is ready to roundup as many immigrants as possible and ship them out to god knows where. It’s sickening that this is what republicans and calling for when Trump wins the primary inevitably. Wake the fuck up people, this is happening.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It's been happening since the 1930s. It's far too normalized to get the response it should.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At what point does it become domestic terrorism?

[–] orangeNgreen@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

At what point ~~does~~ did it become domestic terrorism.

Fixed this for you.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

In case anyone was wondering if this is legit: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/

Yup. They went there. The loony bin got extra loony.

[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

The party known for fearmongering about terrorism has itself become terrotist. It's their magnum opus of projection.

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 32 points 8 months ago

Traitors, the lot of ‘em.

[–] gloss@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess it's something that these traitors are finally admitting that Jan 6. was a coup attempt. Not antifa, not a false flag by the FBI, not a little happy tour or whatever little ruse they come up with to deflect or justify it. At what point does this become treason? Do his followers have to try to take over an army base or something?

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

At what point does this become treason? Do his followers have to try to take over an army base or something?

No level of action is beyond the far right's ability to concoct a flimsy excuse that only makes sense to them.

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Now if the democratic party took this threat seriously...

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"this is the most important election of our lives!!"

Ok great, what are you gonna do about it?

"... do?"

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Let them go, let them tarry

Let them sink or let them swim

They don't give a damn for us

So why should we for them...

  • Lynch's Army

sadness-abysmal

dem

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Ok great, what are you gonna do about it?

Why, vote against him in the election, of course! And we need your money to do that! So, send us your money!

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

God their fucking insufferable.

The national discourse from one of the two political parties is the exact same as an edge lord 14 year old.

Say sonething inflammatory that literally everybody realizes you're doing the "just kidding ...... unless" bit and then act like you trolled people when everybody correctly points out what you're doing.

They don't even have the conviction of their beliefs to honestly state their beliefs they have to use the same strategy as a 5th grader saying they're going to pull the fire alarm.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

That fellow needs to appreciate that when the entirety of the criminal justice system fails to stop them, the rest of us are a Go.

Actually, Merrick could do with some appreciation of that as well.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

Not the onion?!!

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Wow what a fucking cult.

[–] delirious_owl 4 points 8 months ago

What democracy?

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago

When they aay glory to God, they mean glory to fascism.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The traitors must be brought to a severe end.

[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Hope this chipmunk lookin mf has a fatal stroke ASAP

[–] SovietyWoomy@hexbear.net -3 points 8 months ago

Don't have to worry about republicans overthrowing democracy if the country was never a democracy in the first place think-about-it