Well, if they get the presidency, it could very well be. If they lose, let's fucking hope so.
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God, I hope they lose and the Democrats move much further left, and the Republicans end up where Democrats are now.
Would be a huge improvement.
I hope the Republicans are laughed out of relevance and the Dems split into two sane parties.
Same end result.
I'd love to vote based on how socialist I think we could be instead of voting based on how tyrannical I think we should be.
Agreed. That's my hope too. Crush Republicans in November so they're no longer a player, and then have a moderate party and a progressive party.
We'll all get together on weekends to laugh at the tiny, impotent fascist party that remains, just to remind ourselves they're the enemy that needs to be kept in check. No German antics where moderates and progressives play off the fascists to get one over the other.
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I hope he loses, but then expect Dems to still disappoint.
If the GOP scatters to the wind we can maybe start taking out the trash in the DNC. Here's to hoping.
Not really my party, tho.
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The American right is bordering on fascism on the political spectrum. I don't say this to be dramatic or to make them look bad.
There's no way Republicans are shifting left with the current political environment. Republicans are rewarded for being outrageous but at the same time are ostracized if they step out of line with Trump.
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One way or another, it might be.
If Trump wins, it'll likely be the last election we ever have. Dictator on day one and all...
If he doesn't win, he will have drained the party and it's donors of all of their cash.
He already gets the lions share of it and dumps it into a legal black hole, and now Lara plans to divert what little funding was leftover for the local and congressional races to Trump too.
They're literally all in on him, so can they recover in 2 years for the midterms if he cleans them out?
If they have no cash for the midterms and we get a blue wave, what happens to their gerrymandered districts?
This election might be it for them.
"if we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed... and we will deserve it"
— Lindsey Graham
May 3rd 2016
I mostly agree but billionaires will still be able to write checks after the election. The whole nasty enterprise will just reboot itself.
Because it is. There will be no more campaigns and elections after 2024 if the orange wins. It’s not just him but the entire GOP machinery is waiting in the wings armed and ready to bring on fascism as soon as their guy gets in the office and controls the military.
“Stand down and stand by” that was his command to the GOP militia. They are standing by.
They don't really plan on having "elections" anymore if they win again.
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The whole thing reminds me of Cersei skipping her trial at the temple. Trump, and the RNC, are willing to lose all of the downstream races as long as Trump wins because they just plan to kill all the democrats as soon as he takes over the armed forces. It's terrifying.
A link to a text description of the story from the TV show "Game of Thrones" (full of spoilers) https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Great_Sept_of_Baelor
They already had their last election, there is no more GOP only MAGA and enemies of MAGA.
since then, they've been eyeing the Sudentenland.
The article focuses on Trump and his legal problems and his desperation, but the fact that the Boomers are going to start dying en masse over the next decade (the oldest ones are now 78) is another factor. Their demographic is getting old as shit. That's why they are so desperate as a whole.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/319068/party-identification-in-the-united-states-by-generation/
They are going full blown fascist because it's the only way they're going to be able to retain power in the future.
A huge number, and a disproportionate number at that, of boomers died during covid. We will be feeling that for the next ten years at least.
According to that chart GenX is still a problem and they'll be around for a while. The thing that gets me worried is the huge number of "Independents" in Millennials and GenZ. How many of those are Liberal Independents and how many of those are Conservative Independents? I wish there was a followup question whenever people where given the option of Independent.
GenX and I'd sooner vote for someone with 81 years behind him than 91 charges ahead of him.
Also: fuck every last garbage person conservative, climate change is fucking real, trans rights are human rights, black lives matter, universal healthcare is a right and property is not a fucking investment.
Did you come up with that 81 behind, 91 ahead line? That’s pretty damn clever.
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GenX is still a problem
Don't I know it. The kids I went to school with are saying the stupidest things -- and we took the same classes!! I can't explain it.
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Don't threaten me with a good time
But seriously, I think they have to because with all of their gerrymandering and election prices fuckery, they're still losing elections because of their Nasi-ism and fascist daddy issues being front and center of the party now.
They know damn well the writing is on the wall when the daddy issue boomers are dying quicker than they thought, gen-x is split, the new generation hates Nazis, and the fact that they know they can't not be Nazis without losing their base, if they don't win now and squash democracy now they're going to fade away.
That's not a good thing. They're acting like trapped animals and telling their base this is the country's last chance at the ballot box...
Basically it's a setup for Jan 6th part 2.
Basically it’s a setup for Jan 6th part 2.
I mean, jan 6 was four years ago, any country with a decent legal system would have brought to justice those responsible already, right?
No, I must be thinking of Brazil.
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For the folks who’d like to read the article before commenting on it. Here is the archive link.
Fingers crossed that it is.
ohhh....i don't think you got the implication...or maybe you did.
I’m hoping they get dismantled and vaporize into a cloud of abject embarrassment and ridicule- then collapse in on itself like a dying star.
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the leading contenders for the new national party leadership have said in plain english and on right wing media that if they get in and take charge that every dollar the party raises will go to electing trump. they are saying this with one big state without state chair, one swing state with a state chair under indictment, and one big swing state with a party civil war. this is notwithstanding me at last reports literally having more money in my checking account than one state's party.
the national party's funds won't go to repair the local infrastructure. or to protect vulnerable members in the house and senate or state houses that are in the balance. the national party's funds will be going straight to trump. the money not going to pay his legal fees that is.
let's hope that their fears come true. because as soon as trump got to power, the republican party has acted like nothing but a cult with a strong religious ferver. having one national party being a literal cult acting as a political party in a country this size is not good for anybody.
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Trump is a parasite, he has eaten away the Republican party and destroyed it and himself in the process. Personally, I think this is the greatest thing that could happen for this country and international democracy as a whole. Hopefully the Democrats become the next right wing party (they already are right wing) so we can see the emergence of a proper left wing party (and by left I mean Socialism).
Personally, I think this is the greatest thing that could happen for this country and international democracy as a whole.
Not if he wins. If he wins, it could very well be the end of democracy not just in the US but also in countries that are unlucky enough to border Russia or China. Would probably embolden the slide towards fascism in India as well.
That's without even mentioning the irreversible damage that would be caused to the climate.
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A lot of groups are acting like there isn't going to be any consequences, like this is a winner-takes-all time.
I think they know big changes are coming. Once the climate shitshow really hits (very soon!) they're gone so their planning horizon has shortened.
By 'her father-in-law's reelection,' they mean his legal bills. Please drain the war chest!
Crazy animals get dangerous when backed into a corner.
On the one hand, the GOP will be lost after Trump... On the other, the concept of elections so be lost if the GOP get their way.
If they don’t win, it will be—for them. If they do win, no one will need to campaign again.
wait who the fuck is Lara Trump? I don't recall this one from before.
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Inshallah
I dunno, Trump got more voters in 2020 than in 2016. I am afraid they are going to win.
But Biden also got more than Hillary did in 2016 also he got more than trump did in 2020. In both of those elections people were voting against the other candidate as they will be in this election.
The RNC is out of money. Trump is going to spend his money on legal expenses and penalties.
He's not going to be able to effectively campaign in the mouths leading up to the election because of a bunch of court dates between now and then.
It's only going to get worse for Trump as we get closer to the election. Biden is just starting to sort of campaign.
Trump's chances of winning are lower than it seems. Not that we shouldn't all vote because he absolutely will burn shit to the ground if we give him another chance.
Considering how deeply MAGAts are choking on his shriveled cheeto, the only campaign he cares about is "in the mouths".
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