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[-] RudeGryphon@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Hmmm. Reading the scripture it seems to me to not even be about rape. But more like sex out of wedlock.

28 g“If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, 29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days. >

[-] Shou@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Well that's worse. Imagine being raped and bought like cattle from your parents.

[-] RudeGryphon@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

My point was that without more context it doesn't seem to be speaking about rape. Just premarital sex. Not cool but still

[-] kenopsik@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I think the connection is coming from the word "seizes", which sounds non-consensual.

[-] RudeGryphon@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I could see that as an interpretation for sure. I'm not well versed enough in Hebrew to understand the original text and it's context. But I think one could argue that "seize" here could be seen as persuing her romantically.

Now please don't take this as me defending any of this. I'm just trying to show how many different ways this may be interpreted which leads to how people take the Bible out of context or to extremes.

[-] Shou@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And that he violated her. Also doesn't sound good.

[-] RudeGryphon@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

You're correct. But in Christianity premarital sex is seen as a sin and whether or not its consensual they would most likely still see it as a act of violating a woman.

[-] quadropiss@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is this an atheist meme or an antitheist one? (The point is still valid)

[-] Alteon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oooh, that's a really good point. Yeah, this shouldnt be in atheistmemes.

[-] ScottThePoolBoy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

50 shekels is about $300 USD btw.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Why, for that price, I could hire a prostitute. Or, if I wanna visit a seedier part of town, I imagine I could really make that money stretch and hire many.

[-] Pizzasgood@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I question that. According to Wikipedia, 50 shekels in ancient times would have been worth anywhere from five months to five years of unskilled labor. In parts of the USA that still use the federal minimum wage, that works out to between $6,000 and $73,000. In most of the country it'd be higher yet.

[-] ciberConas3000@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

There is a Portuguese writer that is very critical of the bible, I think you would like to read him, he's a noble prize winner, Jose Saramago. He really exposes the hipocrisy of the church.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You don't need to be a noble winner to sus out the bullshit in the Bible. Just be mildly sceptical and less credulous than a 4 year old.

[-] ciberConas3000@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

He really manages to portrait it really well though.

[-] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Women are being regarded as a man‘s property in many old-school religions. Just look at the Mullahs or the Taliban, they are not better than this.

[-] GatoB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Where is the meme?

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