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[-] myrdinn@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

Explain like I'm an American with no access to unbiased information or anything but propaganda and lies and misinformation and disinformation

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
  • Gaza pre-war was a pretty densely packed urban area of 2.2 million people with limited open spaces outside the seafront. Gaza has to import basically everything it uses
  • They’ve been living under embargo for years where dual use military-civilian items are banned, which is a big list if you think about parallel uses
  • In ‘normal’ times life in Gaza for Palestinians was acceptable living standards, if impoverished and heavily dependent upon UN/NGO/charitable aid as a community

There was the Oct 7 surprise attack by Hamas and the following Israeli reaction since, leading us to right now and the ongoing war. The true number is unknown, but at present there have been over 26,000 civilians killed, and varying from 1 million to 500,000 were forced out of their homes by the war.

  • The northern half of Gaza is an active war zone, as are areas in the south & south east, resulting in large no-go zones for civilians
  • Many have gone to the refugee camps near the remaining border crossings, in the south, where the aid does still come in
  • Some choose to remain in the remaining undamaged and ruins of buildings, owing to massive overcrowding in refugee camps among the usual issues
  • To add to all this, there has been a reduction of aid coming into Gaza since the war started, ranging from completely being shut off from even water, reduced number of trucks carrying core basics, and currently it’s nowhere near enough.

No land for growing food to feed almost 2 million people, people who are largely displaced from their homes and supply, who at present are entirely reliant on outside assistance for survival. Severely insufficient supplies coming in from outside aid, poor medical availability for both war and normal injuries, illnesses and diseases - diseases that spread rapidly in dense areas like refugee camps.

If nothing changes, it’s going to be an incredible humanitarian crisis. How we, the global community act decides what happens to the Palestinians in Gaza. I hope we don’t repeat history.

[-] Gazumi@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I'd say that it has been an incredible humanitarian crisis for several weeks. This is based upon what limited information is available. You would not need every smoke detector in a building to be triggered before determining that there is a fire.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Many people have died directly (bullets/bombs), but it’s nothing compared to what will come from the secondary effects of no food, shelter, healthcare, stress, poverty, etc.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Sometimes I'm wondering what would happen to the Israeli society if it recreates the images of mass starvation from the WWII concentration camps in Gaza along with the numbers of dead to substantiate it. I'm certain parts of it wouldn't bat an eye but others might snap. I wonder whether their society would be able to stay whole under such circumstances.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago

They seem to be doing a good of suppressing the leftists in Israel so far. Everyone was making it sound like Bibi was almost about to be dragged out people had had enough of his shit before this, yet now there's barely a peep.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I recently came across a survey and his approval wasn't bad at all.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 8 months ago

Honestly though why would they care? From their point of view and they've been attacked ever since they arrived. I imagine that they would breathe a sign of relief if they woke up tomorrow and there were no Palestinians left.

Humans are pretty good at dehumanizing their enemies to cope with conflict.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Agreeing with all that, I have a feeling something might gonna snap if they end up killing a few tens of thousands or more via famine. I don't think the current dehumanization program would be able to cope with that. Currently it emphasizes Hamas, human shields and all that. I don't think you can square tens of thousands dead from hunger with that narrative.

[-] GhostFence@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That truth will be buried. Israel will go full-scream about the Hamas attack long after the last Palestinian has starved to death. America won't intervene - after all look what they did to the Native Americans.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 months ago

They track the amount of food entering so they'll just say oh well there was enough food let in but Hamas made sure it didn't get to the people who needed it.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The goal of israel was never to kill all the Palestinians with bullets and bombs. Their goal was since the beginning to create a humanitarian crisis. It's insane they even managed to kill more than 11.000 children with just bombs.

Israel wants to kill the Palestinians with starvation and disease. This has started by israel bombing hospitals and bakeries, and now they are holding up food from coming into Gaza to kill everyone.

Everyone who said that Gaza was not a "concentration camp" has been proven dead wrong.

[-] GhostFence@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

And the Zionists will look at you and say "...and that's what we wanted all along!"

As long as a single Palestinian is left alive they will not stop killing.

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