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I know reddit is low hanging fruit, but I just can't with these dweebs.

Something has changed. Using an adblocker goes against the YouTube ToC, so Google has started to detect them. You need to disable Adblock for YouTube, and it should go back to normal.

fuck google for doing this.

Well, Google has every right to do so. It has to pay the content creators for their work, so people need to pay either (as you and I do) through Premium or by having advertisements. When people use an ad-blocker to watch YouTube, they are freeriding on the creators' work, which is disrespectful to say the least.

so-true why yes, I talk about people who use ad blocker to not have their consciousness invaded by advertisements using "welfare queen" language. how did you know?

They don't pay creators on YouTube as much as they used to.

I'm not surprised. People are blocking ads all over the place.

nerd

YouTube has recently been cracking down on ad-blockers, because they deprive content creators of their rightful fees. Recent changes have caused ad-blockers to misbehave.

Or just, you know, pay for the content? It's called YouTube Premium. People don't complain about Netflix or Amazon Prime charging money.

Anyway, it's your decision what you choose to do. I choose to pay.

smuglord

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[–] oktherebuddy@hexbear.net 75 points 9 months ago (2 children)

there are tech workers out there who unironically believe that viewing ads is a moral imperative. I want to say "nothing human is alien to me" but these fuckers are just unbelievable

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 46 points 9 months ago (3 children)

These people are so funny, and have been around forever. They spend time customizing their filters to only block certain kinds of ads, or not blocking on sites they like. I can't imagine.

All so they can "support the site" by being subjected to ads for hard lemonade.

[–] oktherebuddy@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's what gets me! If you engage with the concrete activity they put so much weight on - observing some banners for hard lemonade or whatever interspersed with the content you're reading - it's just so absurd in a way that is hard to capture. A company is paying to subtly massage my neurons so I possibly have a 5% higher chance of buying hard lemonade next time I pick up a 6-pack for a friend's gathering. This is the value I bring to the table, shaping a bit of my soul to corporate ends.

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

I stare at each ad for 5 minutes so the site can maximize value.

[–] riseuppikmin@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The wildest thing about this is that these (usually affluent) people could quite literally throw $10 at the site, keep their adblock on, and then probably have donated more directly than the ad-platform EVER would have generated off of them.

[–] Sinistar@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Patreon is such a better model for Internet content than ads that it's unbelievable that it took so long to come about. I guess the problem is that it cuts corpos out of the loop.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

Well, it cuts some corpos out of the loop. Patreon corpos still get their slice.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

brb making adtech to serve ads for cyanide capsules and microtargeting it at people with ad blockers but who have whitelisted the site

/j

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the value of a commodity is the socially necessary labor time required to produce it, but the price of a commodity is whatever the capitalists can get away with charging it. As the SNLT for so many digital commodities approaches zero, the only way to make money off of it is to employ a parasitic rent-seeking software-as-a-service or ad-blitzkrieg model. The alternative to this model built on artificial scarcity and planned obsolesence and a never ending arms race between different kinds of software developers is just nationalizing the tech companies and making data free if it doesn't cost anything to (re)produce. but we can't have that.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 47 points 9 months ago

I already pay Google with my data, they don't need more money

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

why are you complaining so much? the Doritos™ Dew™ verification can is sugar-free and ethically sourced, and it actually tastes pretty good!

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Users who look away during ads will be shot.

[–] btfod@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Jfc they have Chrome flair

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

Chromies are only gonna get more deranged in the next couple years.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

When people use an ad-blocker to watch YouTube, they are freeriding on the creators' work, which is disrespectful to say the least.

jagoff

People don't complain about Netflix or Amazon Prime charging money.

I-was-saying

[–] riseuppikmin@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

The users are just doing what the FBI wants them to do (install adblockers):

https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/22/fbi-ad-blocker/

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Or just, you know, pay for the content? It's called YouTube Premium. People don't complain about Netflix or Amazon Prime charging money.

Because unlike Netflix or Amazon its user generated content. Also, normal people dont pay for those either.

[–] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Most people I know pay for Netflix so idk what you’re saying (I agree in general of course)

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

Oh ok so you’re just saying crackers aren’t normal, that’s true

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 months ago

Even better one of those people having issues were paying for it and still got screwed

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

What's that quote from a book, about how if the rich figured out how to bottle all the air in the atmosphere, people like this would scold and condescending you for suggesting it shouldn't cost money to breathe? And if you suggested banding together and smashing the air tanks, they would haul you in to the police in the hopes of receiving some air for their loyalty?

[–] roux@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry I don't want my 6yo child seeing fucking ads for alcohol, P2W mobile games, and sex pills shrug-outta-hecks

It's bad enough he's so susceptible to click-bait "minecraft parkour" type bullshit videos...

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I had turned the ad blocker off for a bit when YT first started blocking them and saw a fucking Goblin Slayer mobile game ad.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I installed Playlet and got rid of YouTube on my Roku-based TV(which is also a cesspool of ads) after my kid's YouTube junk food stuff started serving up ads for Disaronno. Like he was watching KooKoo Kangaroo or one of those magnetic metal ball ASMR videos.

I'd have a pihole running too but we have AT&T fiber and they don't let you change some settings needed for a pihole.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I haven't had any problems on firefox yet

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 40 points 9 months ago (3 children)

See, that’s where the messed up part is. If I’m reading this correctly, it looks like Chrome (being a Google product) is programmed to start hoovering up CPU and RAM if it detects a YouTube ad blocker. Firefox wouldn’t do that because it’s not a Google product.

Which to me isn’t just not cool, it’s moving Chrome into the realm of malware: use our product as we intend or your computer will become borderline non-functional.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All nonFree software is malware

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

All nonFree software is malware

yes-chad

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

That's disgusting what-the-hell

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Apparently it’s actually a bug with specifically Adblock plus on chrome not so much google. Ublock origin users apparently haven’t had any issues w yt on chrome. At least that’s what I’ve read. Google is still a trash company regardless

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'm on chrome/ublock and no problems with yt (famous last words?)

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

I have a set up like this for work and ice also has no issues

[–] Sinistar@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IMO one of the reasons they're rolling this out to random people and not everybody all at once isn't just to manage the backlash, it's to make it harder to diagnose exactly what's happening. So maybe.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

Well fingers crossed then lol

[–] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or just, you know, pay for the content? It's called findom. People don't complain about other kinks.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago
[–] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

It seems there are two broad sects of pro-advertising assholes on the internet:

There are the people who believe watching ads is a necessary evil for art to exist at all, and their willingness to toil in the marketing mines is some sort of moral virtue they have over the ad blocking "freeloaders".

And there are the tech perverts who actually get excited about the latest fucking spyware hidden throughout their OS, browser, and apps because they take some sort of sick enjoyment in being subjected to increasingly personalized ads as if the only problem with marketing brainwashing is that it just isn't quite relevant enough to their interests yet.

The first group is annoying, but the second is genuinely terrifying.

[–] princeofsin@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

Thank you hexbear for existing and you guys being here. I always thought that people simping for corpos was weird. Let me take care of this chud hillary-assassin

[–] LemonGrease@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

People don't complain about Netflix or Amazon Prime charging money

Yes I do

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I posted it earlier, so I'll post it here as well

Using uBlock origin works as long as you add the below lines:

! 2022-07-23 https://mobile.twitter.com

mobile.twitter.com##.r-11nfnuw.r-16wqof.r-1dqxon3.r-16y2uox.r-kemksi.css-1dbjc4n

youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false)

youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0)

youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, [])

youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true)

To add these, simply go to uBlock > Dashboard > My Filters, you can just wholesale copy/paste into there

After, go to the Filter Lists tab, and press Apply Changes, then Update Now (or maybe those need to be reversed, it's been a while)

If you had a youtube tab open, close browser and re open

Haven't needed to do anything since throwing that script on back in 2023 when YouTube forced the issue

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago
[–] POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

Chromecucks btfo

[–] xi_simping@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

imagine defending google, the west is so fucking cooked

[–] white_shotgun@aussie.zone 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Firefox is all good

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

You can use a Boot Slurp to generate 2 new unique advertisements!

iNoVaTiOn!!1!

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

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[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

I still haven't had any issues with this using firefox, uBlock origin (no other adblockers or they trip on each other), protonVPN, and never logging in. Age-gated videos I hit with youtube-dlp and it's no issue.