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After he won the New Hampshire Republican primary Tuesday night, former President Donald Trump complained about his main GOP rival, former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, about immigration, inflation, and his likely opponent in November, President Joe Biden.

One thing he didn’t complain about: Voter fraud in the election he had just won.

That continues a pattern for Trump as he steamrolls through the GOP presidential primary and toward an increasingly likely November rematch with Biden. While Trump generally refrains from claiming voter fraud in elections he wins, he spends plenty of time laying the groundwork to cry fraud should he lose an upcoming vote. He’s already been doing that with an eye toward November’s general election.

“They used COVID to cheat. And they did a lot of other things, too. We’re not going to let that happen,” Trump said of Democrats in his Tuesday night speech to supporters in New Hampshire. “You can never forget history, because if you forget, you never, you never recover from it. And you repeat.”

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 67 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Did anyone expect him to do anything else?

Also-

They used COVID to cheat.

I know everything he says is word salad, but what?

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Shitty reference to so many states implementing wider mail-in voting?

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

wider use of mail-in voting is the best thing to come out of covid.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I feel it is a close second to people generally backing the fuck off in public places.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

early in the pandemic, i was going into walmart becuase there was something I couldn't find elsewhere and was sick of giving amazon money. any how, it was like 60 degrees. a beautiful day, I'm walking in without a jacket and some old boomer-type starts harranging me about how I'm going to catch a cold if i don't put on a coat.

So I apologized and faked a sneeze. She practically fled. and I swear that was the fastest I've ever gotten in and out of a walmart before. as an introvert... there were some positives to the pandemic.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

yeah but that was not long lasting.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

To me, it seems quite obvious that he meant this.

He does say a lot of unintelligible things, but this one makes sense to my ears and is very consistent with earlier claims all the way back to 2020.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I guess because COVID killed a bunch of Republicans that refused to take the vaccine?

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Something to do with Covfefe

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

He's got a point. Republican politicians killed a fair amount of their loyal constituents via misinformation. I'm sure that had to have made a dent.

They should probably also blame democrats for the number of insurrectionists that Trump sent to the capitol who hopefully will be excluded from voting for the rest of their lives.

[–] tiltinjammy@lemmy.org 1 points 9 months ago

Mad scientists, complete with lightning in the background while cackling fiendishly, "invented" a virus to trick world wide quarantine measures into false activation. Simultaneously making the head of the largest state look like a fool.

[–] silverbax@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

What, the guy who complained about fraud in every election, even the one he won, would do it again?

Who cares, he's not going to be president. The GOP should start focusing on 2028 and trying to find an actual presidential candidate somewhere in their basket of losers.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

he's not going to be president.

Only if we vote and mobilize others to do the same. He hasn't lost until the election is over.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch

[–] silverbax@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I know you're right, but I also know the media is going to be pushing the 'Trump might win!' storyline nonstop until November. Rather than just report on, you know, all of his crimes and attempt to overthrow the United States, they'll take the lazy way out and just keep repeating the same story maniacally for months.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

Agreed. Complacency will kill everything positive about the country and, while Canadians love to poke fun at half of the presidents, it's a little serious this time around.

Don't make us burn it down again. :-D

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

even the one he won

The tiny bit of shit-talking he did about fraud before he won in 2016 was only done just like this shit-talking right here is being done - to lay the groundwork for a full-on denial of the elction if he loses. Not because he believes there's any fraud, not for any other goddamn reason other than to lay the groundwork to raise holy dumb dogshit when he loses.

He doesn't give a flying fuck about fraud if he wins and anyone who implies anything different is badly mistaken.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He degenerates more into a disgusting slimy haggard worm every article picture.

[–] Dud@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It looks less like he's speaking and more like he's getting ready to deepthroat the mic.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Practicing for Putin.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I swear to big baby jesus, this cuntrag is going to be whining like a little bitch even after he fucking dies (may it be painful, slow, and in a supermax).

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Wow, that would be a surprise

[–] TwattyMctwatterson@lemmings.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trust me, bro, they cheated. I can't show you how but if you google it it's out there. Just google it.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

then he goes and blames google for 'censoring' things.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This was the kid no one wanted to play with, who even the unpopular kids couldn't feel pity for because they're such a belligerent asshole upon conversation.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

He would still cry about it even if he won.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On the bright side, the day after the election, Biden will still be in the White House and Trump won't.

That will make a Trump coup much harder IF he loses the election.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 months ago

Only if we vote and mobilize others to do the same. He hasn't lost until the election is over.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch

[–] tylerkdurdan@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

riddle me this, if the last one was stolen why run again? if the system is rigged why try? circular logic to me

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This is why it needs to be a blowout. If Biden gets a slim victory it becomes a lot easier to convince more people that it was rigged.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I used to say the same exact thing. Now I'm thinking a blowout would just lead to, "See! See! There's no WAY Trump got beaten that badly!"

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

True. Maybe not a Reagan 1984 blowout. More like an Obama 2008 blowout.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

Don't worry, Trump's gonna claim foul play no matter whether he wins or loses and by how much.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Those fucktards are beyond reason. They’re a total loss. It’s time to move on without them and make them as irrelevant as possible.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago

He certainly leans. But that’s mostly his platform heels.

[–] sharkaccident@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

If they control the ballot boxes why not just have Haley get to general?

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Picture looks like Walmart Tony Bennett.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


NEW YORK (AP) — After he won the New Hampshire Republican primary Tuesday night, former President Donald Trump complained about his main GOP rival, former South Carolina Gov.

Trump lost dozens of court challenges, his own attorney general found no evidence of widespread fraud, and reviews, audits and recounts in the battleground states where he contested his loss all affirmed Biden’s victory.

Rachel Orey of the Bipartisan Policy Center said Trump’s preemptive allegations of fraud have become built into the nation’s political culture.

Trump held back from echoing Vance’s allegations Tuesday, though he did briefly reiterate the unfounded claim that Democrats voted for Haley before focusing on his victory.

He’s previously described Biden as the real threat to democracy because the Justice Department is prosecuting Trump for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election and for illegally keeping classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

Steven Levitsky, a professor at Harvard and coauthor of “How Democracies Die,” said Trump’s refusal to admit defeat in elections combined with demonizing the other side is a textbook authoritarian tactic.


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[–] isthereany 1 points 9 months ago

Our elections are a fraud or we wouldn't be choosing between two geriatrics selected by corporations.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

Ideally by then his media engagements would be scheduled around visitation.

[–] Haphazard9479@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

Man I really wish we could get a couple of better candidates than these two knuckleheads.