There’s a really good short form podcast by a couple food scientists in the USA and they covered this one saying not risky. https://www.riskyornot.co/episodes/548-cleaning-the-toilet-brushes-in-the-dishwasher-top-rack
Even if true, what if someone said they shit on their plates, throw the shit in the toilet, them dishwasher the plates.
Would you conceptually still be ok eating off that plate? Even if you knew for fact it had gone through the machine?
Yes. I would be happy to eat of a clean plate that once had shit on it.
Truly we live in a society
Huh don’t have time to listen to the whole thing rn but wonder what their rationale is 🤔
It’s been a bit, but if I recall, it’s that the dishwasher already reliably cleans unsanitary things that are loads more biologically risky like cutting boards used for raw meat or potentially contaminated with things like Norovirus.
I could see it being safe from a germ perspective but when a little nugget of shit rattles around in the machine and ends up anywhere near what you're using to eat that's gotta suck, safe or not.
Bottom shelf usually gets a more aggressive wash. I think these are better suited for bottom shelf.
But then where would u shit?
I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn't much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl. They both contain a lot of the same bacteria, you wouldn't be much better off licking an old used plate that has been sitting in a moist environment for a few days before you put the dishwasher on than you would be from licking a toilet brush. Well made dishwashers are designed to vigorously wash and, with the right settings and detergent, sanitize everything inside them so that they are safe to eat off of. Heck the machines they use to sanitize surgical equipment are essentially fancy dishwashers. But emotionally I couldn't do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn't be able to get over that mental hurdle.
I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn't much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl.
First, what the fuck is growing on your dishes that you believe is "logically" equivalent to eating human shit? Second, this isn't a logic problem or a place for opinion. All the work was already done for you, just waiting for you to look it up instead of giving your opinion on bacteria.
Human shit also doesn't only contain bacteria. There's estimated100 million -1 billion virus per gram of wet shit inside of us. Fungi are estimated at up to a million microorganisms per gram of shit and there's around 100 billion bacteria per gram of wet shit. Let's not forget parasites like cryptosporidium which your body purges in shit.
Meanwhile either giving your dishes a cursory rinse or not allowing them to sit covered in food for multiple days at a time would minimize bacterial or fungal growth on your dishes.
This is a reminder for everyone: your opinion on facts that you can't be bothered to type in a search box are less than worthless. They're disinformation and in sone cases, like telling people that eating shit is no more harmful that licking a plate, can cause harm.
Just say no to opinions on what facts may or may not be.
I didn't say it was the equivalent I said neither are good for you and both could be cleaned and sanitized sufficiently by the right dishwasher, so please don't put words in my mouth thanks. Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren't going to have anything good for you on them either and that's how most people treat their used dishes. We get viruses and parasites growing on regular food that has gone bad too, and both are going to disagree with your stomach and potentially do some harm. Does rinsing your dishes or washing them right away help mitigate or prevent that? Sure. Does everyone do that? Of course not. I never said "eating shit is the exact same as licking a dirty dish" nor did I say anything close to that. I said "both are bad for you and a well made dishwasher is designed to clean things really well and even sanitize them in order to make them safe to eat off of, so it makes sense logically that this could be safe but I still wouldn't do it anyway".
But emotionally I couldn't do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn't be able to get over that mental hurdle.
I know, right? If nothing else it just feels wrong...
I don't know about the dishes but according to my memory of something I read a while ago (can't look things up right now), the kitchen sink and kitchen brushes aren't much cleaner than anything in the toilet; and actually, kitchen washcloths/sponges tend to be worse than toilet surfaces.
So, maybe don't put toilet brushes in the dishwasher but definitely don't put in kitchen washcloths either. Not sure what this means about us washing dishes by hand with a sponge either. And maybe don't put in used washcloths along your clothes in the washing machine.
i would assume the big problem with toilet items is that some quite nasty bugs come out of our bungholes, whereas in the kitchen you'll at worst find salmonella if you don't practice good hygeiene around raw unvaccinated bird products
Ew... like, all alone, with nothing else in the dishwasher at all, and a rinse cycle in-between that and other things that you plan to eat off of?
Even then, it seems inefficient to me. Also, why would those even need to be cleaned - do you plan on eating off of those?!? They get "cleaned" well enough by going into the toilet - no need for more?
Usually I clean the toilet with soap and the brush, and then occasionally clean the brush by cleaning the toilet like normal, flushing, and putting a stronger antimicrobial (looks like bleach but isn't, since they don't sell it as much anymore due to the danger it has around the house) on the brush and then rinsing it in the toilet and flushing again.
Mostly I don't want it to stink. It's bad if anyone has cause to notice the toilet brush tucked almost behind the toilet. Same for the plunger.
Meeh, I do clean them from time to time. They do become very dirty after a while and it shows since they're white. Not really often, like once a year, but still.
Great! But uh... the more distance between them and things I eat off of, imho, the better! :-P
Just like Skibidi Toilet, simply b/c you can do something, does not mean that you should.
Great! But uh... the more distance between them and things I eat off of, imho, the better! :-P
Of course, I don't clean them in the dishwasher, lol 😂.
How do you clean them? I'm not sure how I'd even do it.
You take the bowl in which it resides, you clean that with... whatever, soap, shampoo, dishwashing liquid. Use a dish sponge from the rough side, gets the best results 👍. Then, you fill that up with some hot water and pour some soap/shampoo/dishwashing liquid in that and start stirring that with the toilet brush, just grinding it in there. You do that for about a minute, it should be shiny as new.
Thanks. I've never thought of doing this. My brush is disgusting lol
Glad I could help 👍 😊.
The water sprays from the bottom so I think it would not matter whether they are on the top rack
It might even be worse, depending on the dishwasher's design.
While we're at it....do people really put their dildos and pocket pussies in the dishwasher?
I understand the ick factor, but dishwashers are built to sanitize. Its going to get hotter than anything you'd wanna stick your hands in.
The biggest worry would be the bristles clogging the drain.
Now ask her how she cleans her sex toys.
That's not the problem, the types of bacteria and parasites is. They're not exactly the same.
My mother used to recycle her douche bottles, throw it in with the regular dishes, and make her own. Guess who always had to wash the dishes...
Your mom didn't really think things through, did she...
Can't find the YouTube link I'm looking for with the "guy with deep voice" but it's close enough to this link... REMINDS ME OF TOILET SEAT DUET...
You have to consider only two things really:
In the absence of actual scientific studies that provided an answer for the "is a household dishwater entirelly effective for fecal mater and toilet cleaning chemicals contamination" question with a high degree of certainty, the consideration on whether to do this or not boils down to: "Is a dishwasher level of cleaniness for a toilet brush worth the risk that the dishwasher might not deal with fecal mater or toilet cleaning chemical contamination correctly?"
Personally, I don't think it's worth the risk.
You know how you wash your dishes to keep the leftover bits of food on them from crusting onto them in the dish washer?
That, like ten times first, maybe twenty.
I bet they wash the poop knife in there too
Residential dishwasher probably don’t get hot enough to do that safely.
160F/72C - s'pose it depends on the machine. It's not the sort of bacteriologic roulette I would want to play. Truly a 'shit post'. Er, Bravo, I guess.
Still, even if it gets to 100°C (boiling point), I still won't do it.
I believe most of them have a setting where they can sanitize things, because it's a function of not just temperature, but also time.
Commercial dishwashers do the same thing much faster by using higher temperatures, but they also tend to get to sanitary, not sterile which needs higher temperatures for a longer times.
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