chapotraphouse

eat hot chip and lie

im a stalinist

There is a division between millenials and gen z

Millenial women are all about butt mogging zoomers and the zoomers, they get butt mogged

Real talk, material conditions. Young women support legalizing abortion and free healthcare. Posting this for a few friends of mine

UK perspective. Unironically socialism with feminist characteristics. More women support socialism than men, that translates in reality to succdem for the most part but it also translates to actual support for actual socialism as well. Entries into radical politics are typically feminist oriented, equal pay, equal holiday, time off, bodily rights, personal space/sexual assaults, etc etc.

The big trend I see on tiktok among younger teens is girls posting videos of the catcalling and car horns they get. Some of these girls are sort of posting it as a cutesy "this is what it's like walking around dressed as an alt-girl" type video for views and algo... But in a few years time those same girls will not look at it as cute anymore they will hate it and talk about how much they hate it and how much every grown ass man overtly sexualises 14 year old girls walking around the streets.

This behaviour later translates to getting actually groped and inappropriately touched by gross and scarily intimidating men in nightclubs and their transition to overt feminism happens fast as fuck. I've known a number of pretty regular basic ass girls that, upon having their first experience of a complete and total strangers they're not even dancing or doing anything with thinking it's appropriate to put their hands on and in their privates unannounced in a nightclub start their path into politics and activism real quick.

Hot chip? Lie?

I don't think there's anything for women that is anywhere near equivalent to what manosphere shit is to young men. Most young women I know are some color of liberal or radlib to varying degrees. White feminism is big among white women. I think if there was anything to compare, it would be trad stuff or that sort of new age granola fascism (unsure of what else to call it). But these are extremely niche, I only know a bunch of weird new age reactionaries due to a horrible former job. Ultimately these people are rare and most people will maybe know or know of like one woman like this. Most young women are more likely center left or radlibs. Meanwhile a man does not even have to be really explicitly into manosphere stuff for that rhetoric to have seeped into his subconscious it's become so common in male circles.

Posadism

i don't think americans have coherent politics regardless of gender. They probably have sympathies that bend in certain directions, like a solid majority of women seem on board with abortion rights. But otherwise everything's so atomized and exists as a consumer identity that no one knows what the heck is a politics.

Is it still laughing at salads? Is that still what media pushes on young women? It used to be laughing at salads

They claim to not be racist but then marry the most racist man alive

My niece is early 20s. She loves Trump, hitting her dab pen, is staying off of harder drugs now, gets roped into MLM shit every so often, is going back to community college "next semester" for a couple years now.

She comes to me and my partner for advice knowing we don't have the same values, then proceeds to not take the advice she sought out. No fucking clue what's going on in her head.

Next oldest niece is still in HS, but her parents are very wealthy libs... She's going to be a lib.

We know all about the edgy 'manosphere' bullshit that teenage males basically get shoved down their throats these days and gladly suck up since they don't see any alternatives, but what about women?

I think they mostly get to choose between tradcath or liberal virtue signaling.

gatekeep gaslight girlboss

"I dont know you, thats my purse"

if you mean the average young cis women, it's keeping amabs out of the tenement and then going out to the "rave against fascism" with the progress pride flag in hand or mild despair with a side liberalism (my material analysis is vibes, don't quote me on this)

If we're talking analogies to manosphere brainworms I think the whole true crime / pathological fear of crime thing would be the closest analogy

For full transparency, I'm a guy and I do recognize that there's real issues there to be talked about, solved, but in the same sense that at the core of grievances that lead you to go manosphere is probably true - like it gets to be lonely to be a guy ( / it is unsafe to be a woman) - but it prefers to solve this via basically traumatizing yourself; never talk to or have any connection to another human being / lock yourself down in your house or car as there's international gang stalking rapists waiting to take you at every turn

In my country they're either radlibs or DemSocs

Depends on who Taylor Swift tells them to vote for and it better be for Biden if she wants to be on the right side of history.

In my experience in America, mostly light radlib/socdem.

It depends who you know. I seem to encounter a lot on the verge of the 14 words whatever that says about me.

Didn't the Tumblrverse skew heavily female? I would suspect that if there's any good answer, this is maybe a start or a correlate.

Georgism

They're all Jacobites now

Outside of cities, I have no idea, but in the big cities, my observation as a guy is:

Libleft to left. I feel like there's a high baseline tendency of libleft. I think it's hard not to be that way these days because there's so many issues affecting women that are blatantly the right's making and maintaining.

I think within libleft, there's often a support of redistributive strategies, and an interest in intersectionality. It's of course well meaning, but often within 'ultra-normal' types (you know what I mean) the interest comes and goes in an Instagram infographic. I think people are a bit over cynical about that sort of thing and it definitely comes from a place of misogyny, but it is also somewhat of a trend. They usually reveal their fleeting interest through a vague anti war post, calling for peace wherever. Violence = bad, is their throughline for geopolitics, so they get caught up in liberal news cycle trends. For a fair number of people it seems to be an aesthetic, but that's much better than nothing at all, or being right wing, like most men I meet.

The word decolonising will come up if they're a person of colour or a person who attends university.

In terms of actual socialism, it seems that most local orgs and Marxist events are majority straight white guys. The women are usually people of colour, and if they're white they seem to often be she/they or trans.

In my experience women are just a little bit more open minded than men because they’ve been victimised more often. So they will be a little bit more progressive while being very similar to men otherwise. Most white women will support lgbtqia+ rights and abortion, but still behave like they are superior to minority groups while acting like they care (white saviour type shit). They are slightly more class conscious than men in my experience and often anti capitalist but still oppose communism on the same grounds as any liberal. They believe in slowly changing society by voting and by encouraging the people around them to behave better.

This is from a mostly European perspective though.

in my experience, hexbearism

Liberalism, same as in town.

Collapse Feminism by Alice Cappelle goes into some of the competing narratives/forces in this realm a bit.

There have been various trends in recent years. for example recently "Trad" stuff has been surprisingly effective in flipping the script on liberal feminism and channeling frustrations into "retvrn" right wing directions, but its hard to say if it's achieved the same reach as manosphere stuff, I'd say no probably

Social Justice Warriors a lot of them. IdPol

Generally further left than older women and similar age men, but it's not like they're all communists or anything. I know Trump supporting young women and I know radical young women that are in orgs.