Context: During the Haitian Revolution, France hired Polish mercenaries to go to Haiti and help with putting the slave rebellion down. After arriving, the Polish mercenaries immediately recognized they had much more in common with the other people being oppressed by major European powers and joined the revolution on the Haitians' side. After the revolution and because of some of the most severe international sanctions in world history (many of which are still in effect to this day), the Polish mercenaries were now completely Haitian and were legally declared "black" by the new Haitian government.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Then it's settled. I have Polish heritage and therefore posses the N-word pass.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Be careful, the pass is only valid in Haiti.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

*lands in haiti*

*walks out of the terminal*

*stand there a moment, looks around*

*takes a big breath*

NNNNNNNNN...

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

gets shot and killed by a gang member

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Well I did say *lands in Haiti*

[–] tty5@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Well, it definitely would not be easy to use in Poland: according to the last census out of almost 38,000,000 people fewer than 200 are black.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

tbh in most of the world's countries if you say it people are just going to wonder wtf you're on about, and in a large chunk of them it'd just be like randomly saying "yellow"

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That man is a true revolutionary, like Washington and Bolivar, of the Americas.

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He also forced his people to go back to work in the plantations or in the army under pain of death. The Poles got real lucky that they got classified as honorary blacks, too, because he ordered a genocide of all white people.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The country kept its slaves and the country was involved in a genocide of its native population, basically almost like Washington and America.😊

That and it depends on your belief if he’s justified for the genocide or not as a nice case of… what did that clown say? Ah, yes: “You get what you fucking deserve!”

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Does that justify murdering almost every single Frenchman and Frenchwoman?

He did not care if they owned slaves or not. He did not care what their opinion on Tainos was. He killed them all.

Off-topic, but the residents of Hispaniola did a whole lot more than you folks up North. You still have natives. We don't.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah, so that's where the Lemmy dev's screen name comes from. Neat.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

I was alarmed at their screen name before learning they're Polish

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

After that, Dessalines got murdered.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

And still after that, he admined Lemmy, history is crazy.

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Vaush/Ian Kochinski like part-Polish? That makes the N-word incident not problematic.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Turns out the left was just disrespecting his cultural heritage SMH my head

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I was only recently learned that Haiti and Jamaica are in North America...

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Politics and culture have more weight than pure geography. Haiti is better described as part of the Caribbean, which like the Pacific Islands, is almost it's own thing. Geographically, it's more North than South American, but that distinction isn't useful for understanding it. The Americas can be broken down into the zones of Central, North, South, and the Caribbean. Culturally, it can best be divided in two as English America and Latin America. The traditional North vs South line betrays how the US and Canada relate to every other American country.

I wish we legally recognized overlap with our geographic categorization. Eastern Europe overlaps with both Europe and Asia. North and South America overlap in Central America and the Caribbean. The Middle East overlaps with Asia, Africa, Western Europe, and Eastern Europe. Regions really aren't exclusive.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Anyone want my pass? I feel like I'm not gonna use it.

[–] ichmagrum@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How did Poland earn it?

[–] tty5@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Napoleon sent polish troops to fight a slave rebellion, poles declared they were supposed to fight for freedom not against it and changed sides.