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Even if you disregard the Hitler aspect of the quote (which is a big if), there's no way to view that with any magnanimity.

Not just racists. Nazis.

Any number in this context is too high, but you're talking about a percentage of a percentage of a percentage... And all of that in Iowa where, like in all of America, empty land doesn't vote.

• people that are actually registered to vote in the sparsely populated state of Iowa > that declare for the gop officially > that weren't disqualified for insurrection felonies > that responded to this poll on landlines in the middle of the workday most likely > even then, less than half of those remaining people

"The poll, conducted between Dec. 2 and 7, features responses from 502 likely Republican Iowa caucusgoers and has a maximum margin of error of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points."

These "polls" are not representative of large sentiment nationally, but don't rely on that! Register to vote, get others to register and everybody vote please!

And the remaining 58% are having dinner at the same table as them.

I hate ~~Illinois~~ Iowa Nazis.

And that makes you… a Nazi.

Republicans are either "Strong MAGA" or "Nervous MAGA". The party does not tolerate other perspectives.

I have a mental illness, don’t lump me in with these jerkoffs

What does mental illness have to do with supporting donald trump? Very little if you ask me. The two things are not mutually exclusive, not even a little bit.

The real tragedy is knowing some of the kindest and most educated people I've met are still willing to vote for this monster. I can't tell if they have some ulterior motives or they're just willing to play dumb over loving a dictator because they believe in some fantasy that Trump's not a bad person deep down.

That’s far too broad of a brush to paint with. Don’t do that.

Also, that sword has two edges: the Nazis aren’t afraid of the rest of us anymore because they’ve realized there’s actually a decent number of latent Nazis around the country, and now they’re coordinating with each other, and that’s a problem.

I'm officially compassion fatigued. 8 years... Your comment broke the camel's back. No. They aren't beholden to anything. They ARE terrorists. We need to start being real. They're making their moves now.

There was a time when you could make this argument.

In 2024, these are nazis voting for nazis who are running on nazi platforms using nazi language.

There is no compassion to be had for nazis. There is no "durr they say the same about you durr." a vote for Trump is a vote for somebody whose key rally talking point is now that I must be eliminated for disagreeing with him. I never said that about them - and I still don't - but I AM aware that they are voting for the elimination of those they disagree with and will feel no remorse for defending myself against those who wish to eliminate me. It is NOT extremist or "radical" to expect or prepare for the people who can't shut up about killing me to try to kill me.

It's the majority in their ranks.

They could either lose elections or move towards the middle, or court far right extremists. They chose the latter and I have no pity for them. The House shows pretty clearly the party is falling apart.

It's not a minority these days. This is the mainstream Republican party.

I'd like to invest in your bigot detecting cats, please and thank you.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Hey they call themselves 'patriots' too.... so technically...

To add:

We in Russia suffer the same fait. Although my group of people mostly denounce that ridiculous war and cringe at those celebrating it, I notice, how casual hate and insecurity about your surroundings slip everywhere. Anecdotal case: I remember like 3 cases of bus drivers driving away from people running to them at the bus stop in years, and now I have at least one each month when this late person literally knocks at the door when it drives out, I had one today. One another school shooting case making news. One another case of someone pulling a gun onto random persons.

The societal psyche is deeply harmed by any public hate-speech. It affects everyone, and it affects me when I start to cross the road and a SUV running on red light nearly avoids me, once again, or that I'm more insecure of persons randomly asking me for a lighter, or middle-eastern men just walking around although I'm the one to get banned for despising racism locally. Even though I don't subscribe to it, I take the fruits of that. These deep fears that we should've learned to avoid, especially of all kinds of 'other ones', they thrive in that climate. Even if not by agitation itself, but by it's subproducts, like if you hear about a MAGA masshooter, you'd then be more likely to have a gun yourself, and to react agressively to a likely intruder. It escalates, it makes everyone hostile, and brings so much deaths one may want to vomit.

There should be measures in place to de-secalate it on the state level. I doubt my own state would want that, since it's a fuel for conscription and they don't care about what can happen after them ("let there be fire after we quit" is a national meme), but would yours do that? I still have a ghostly hope to immigrate, so I'm kinda involved in not exchanging one burning bag of shit for another. And having the most mil and gun-spending country being overtaken by ghouls like trump makes it unsafe everywhere. This opportunist can start a WW3 if it'd save him a comfy place im the office. With the great force, comes the dead uncle Ben, and it shouldn't be like that.

And what my ranting ass wanted to say: americans have a vision of themselves in regular mass shootings, have an example of russia as a promise, and have a tool to make it slightly better by putting the ballot in the box. Why won't they? You can see 'murican sense of self-respect on Reddit. Why won't they selfrespect themselves enough to eradicate hate speech in the prime time to be sure their kids won't be shot by a random broken kid. Having a post-perenatal abortion by the AR at eleven years feels more untimely than one done at the seventh week, that's what I say.

Imagine me saying all trump voters are genetic failures or just untermesch.

Let's be real though, if you've ever seen a rally up close that's an EASY sell.