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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Very true. We've all witnessed this. I've thought about this a good bit, especially coming from a former Republican household decades ago.

1/3 are people who who may be educated or hard workers but are duped easily by propaganda because they're short on free time or not educated specifically in how to critically-think and analyze sources. They get home from a hard day's work and flip on fox news because they were roped in by sports and now stay for the pretty news anchors or the angry men telling them their paychecks are being stolen etc etc. Some of these people may be reachable if you could sit down with them for hours and hours at a time and lay it all out.

1/3 are the greedy socio/psychopaths who are aware enough to know the game being played and move the pieces accordingly to grift the gullible. (Bannon comes to mind)

1/3 are the world-burner outcasts who don't care or are simply too stupid to understand the long-term consequences of their actions. (Typical 4channers or Trump rally groupies).

The documentary, The Brainwashing of my Dad delves into this: How can kind, smart people be duped into this?

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

1/3 are the world-burner outcasts who don't care or are simply too stupid to understand the longterm consequences of their actions.

This group concerns me. I saw them in 2016 saying that they were voting for Trump in the hopes that the chaos he brought would change the system. Maybe you could have been fooled once into thinking this, but one would think seeing the result would make people realize that Trump's chaos wouldn't bring positive change.

Unfortunately, I'm now seeing people saying they'll vote for Trump in 2024 in order to somehow change the Democratic party. A vote for Trump won't change the Democratic party to make them better, though.

If Trump gets elected, he'll target the heads of the Democratic party and imprison them. He might allow the Democrats to continue to exist as an "other" to blame all bad things on. (Why did the economy just crash? It's those Democrats again!) But Trump won't allow the Democratic party to be an actual threat to his power, though.

It will be like opposition parties in Russia. They exist, but if they gain any traction, their leaders are suddenly arrested or have "accidents."

Voting for Trump in 2024 won't mean you get better options from the Democrats in 2028. It would mean you don't get any options but Vote Trump Again or Prison.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Well said. I've seen the same. Here's my hope that diminishing returns means Trump's rhetoric is losing its power. Here's hoping that at least this election will be run from the perspective of Trump NOT being in the White House to try to influence the outcome . Now we know the game being played. Now we have investigators watching.

And here's the thing: Those who are Trump supporters are and have always been. The cult is saturated while at the same time boomers continue to die off and a new generation is taking over. With Taylor Swift's push to turn out voter registration for the youth and the good signs coming out of the last midterm no less, I feel eerily-confident we should be able to avert fascism. Especially if economic trends persist (not saying economy is perfect in reality, but by all metrics that Republicans typically hit Obama or Biden on).