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[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Hey! I was really into Greek mythology in middle school. And high school. Even got a minor in college. I even have a set of Greek/Roman mythology tattoos!

Oh wait... I am gay. Fuck.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're in good company buddy. Don't have the tattoo but I did have one planned. How can they blame us when half the mythological Greeks are just half (at least) naked hunks?

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

"I just like the stories, Mom!!!!" Lol

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Roman history is amazing. Everybody hears of Julius Caesar and maybe Trajan and Hadrian but then pretend that nothing happened after that. Like poof, it was dead, inevitable, Franks and Caliphates are now a thing.

Then when you realise how much Rome had to screw itself over to even get to that point while being struck by famines, massive migratory invasions, the huns while still being in a moderately good shape... That's the good stuff. The story of the fall is a marble being chipped away slowly while telling a beautiful story until there is nothing left of the Western Roman Empire. If Rome had a favorite hobby it would be waging war on itself.

Eastern Roman Empire was alive and kicking until the 1450's and if you think there's not much there then look up Justinian's restoration. They even had horseback archers like the mongols and huns for a while that had to train for many years. Hell, even look at a map that goes back some years pre-caliphate period.

Even as recently as 1912 there were people in the Aegean islands that identified as Roman. I wish there would be a series that would cover the history of Rome properly and not just "CaEsAr KiLlEd gAuLs aNd sExEd cLeOpAtRa" for the billionth time.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really a shame that even figures such as the Gracchi brothers (or really any of the pre-Caesar Populares figures) are hardly ever brought up as well, although I guess I can't be too surprised that radical social reformers are being left out.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always thought the mid-late Roman Republic was more interesting than the imperial era, and the Gracchi are easily the most fascinating chapter. Noble aristocrats becoming populist ideologues, the increasingly bitter struggle over creaky governmental norms (like their weaponization of the tribunal veto to shut down the city), the introduction of political violence. Very instructive for our current era, imho.

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I want an HBO miniseries on Scipio Africanus vs Hannibal.

Then I want another HBO mini-series on the Flavian dynasty. The eruption of Vesuvius, the first (?) Jewish rebellion, and the questionable conquest of Brittania all happened under Titus. I would love to see a dramatic reenactment of the Romans absolutely losing their minds at how fucking cursed their empire suddenly was.

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[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

Like poof, it was dead

I wish, so much of history (and especially people talking about history) is just recounting Greco-Roman history or trying to embody it. Even American nationalism feels like Roman nationalism v4.3.

I'm rather sick of everyone and everything trying to connect themselves to something roman or greek, then stopping dead. Everyone and their dog has a latin motto, multiple fields are all but written in latin, and that pantheon is the first and often only stop for mythology names; you'd think Caligula was still out there banging his worries away.

Anyway, y'all should look up my boy Gilgamesh.

[–] bort@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I wish there would be a series that would cover the history of Rome properly

you mean like Mike Duncan's The History of Rome?

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[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Idk how im going to tell my wife im gay

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

She knows man

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Welcome to bisexuality

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Get your boyfriend to tell her boyfriend.

[–] jagungal@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Can't tell if it's funnier if you're a guy or a gal

[–] carbonari_sandwich@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know how to tell my wife I'm a swan.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 62 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"I like Viking stuff"

Might be just into Norse mythology. Might be into Nazis.

[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I loved all the Viking / Norse shit when I was younger. Comics, games, etc, I couldn't get enough.

But then I started talking to people who followed that aesthetic and was disappointed by exactly 100% of them.

Still love the games. Lost Vikings, Rune, GoW, etc

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like this band named Heilung, which has some Viking-ish costumes and lore etc. (although more like Conan's Hyperborea). They have to put a disclaimer at the start of their videos which is basically a politer version of "Nazi punks fuck off".

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[–] denast@lemm.ee 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"I'm really into WW2 artifact collecting!"

Only collects things associated with Wehrmacht / SS

Yeaaaah, buddy, collector you are!

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What's crazy is I have a Jewish coworker just like this.. and I'm not sure what to make of it. But he voted for trump, so now I'm like... "Ehhhh. I don't think I like this guy".

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to date a girl that had basically grown up in the antique shop that her father owned. It was amazing - we would watch Antiques Roadshow and she knew what everything was and almost exactly what the experts would say it was worth every time. After her father died she ended up with a ton of stuff in her house, and one day I went over there to find she had put up an "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer!" poster from the 1930s featuring good ol' Adolf above the fireplace. She wasn't pro-Hitler or anything, just thought it was an interesting bit of history. I was like "babe, c'mon, we want to keep our friends".

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[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"The sengoku period is so interesting": this person is a massive weeb. I would know.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many animes have you seen with Oda Nobunaga in them?

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Actually him and not a cute or buff girl with his name? None.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Not the answer I was looking for, but just as telling

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

*sweating* Haha yeah, I also enjoyed that new Dragonball z movie.

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[–] Alto@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

OK hear me out, what if the reason I like WW2 history is because there's a lot of kicking nazi ass

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

WW1 enthusiasts waiting desperately to be referenced just one time ever:

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

There, now they've been referenced. Never again.

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[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a history student I was really afraid that I would meet a ton of right wingers. But I must say the worst kind of people so far are history students that only study history to become teachers. They keep laughing at me saying that at least they have a future and that I will eventually switch sides and become a teacher too, I just don't know it yet :(

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You may have met a ton of right wingers. In hindsight, most of my high school history and civics teachers had a right wing slant to their anecdotes.

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"I'm really interested in the history of the great flood and how it explains how dinosaur fossils are so many layers down in the geologic column even though dinosaurs lived alongside humans only 6,000 years ago. Plus the the flood formed the Grand Canyon in only a few weeks."

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[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I've noticed that, after a relative lull, people are getting bullied for traditional reasons again. However the bullies code those reasons as deplorable, so that they can imply their targets are just assholes.

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[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As someone who just really thinks its cool how an ancient civilization was able to become such a superpower with roads and infrastructure and then fall so harshly. 😢

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What about history pf philosophy? Im on episode 326 of the history of philosophy without any gaps podcast and I really enjoying it. We're just finishing Byzantine philosophy and getting ready for the Renaissance.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends on your opinions re Ayn Rand.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago

She has no place in any history of philosophy

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That someone needs to set aside six hours, some strong alcohol, and a barrel to live in before engaging.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I’m a simple plucked chicken, I got no time for that philosophizing.

[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you’re ready for a lecture on the Philosophy of Cynicism as practiced by Antisthenes and his student Diogenes. The latter of whom famously lived in a clay pot…

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I fell asleep halfway through reading your comment.

[–] Rosco@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm interested in the subjects that I never learned in school, like Asian history or ancient Mesopotamian history. African empires seems interesting too, and I'm very curious about how the Polynesians came to be, seems wild.

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