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New felony charges rock Trump world (www.politico.com)
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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 174 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This seemed to be popular information when I posted it (ahem) "elsewhere". Thought it might be welcome to have here.

If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:

Updated 7/27/2023

January 6th Federal Investigation
Investigation <- You Are Here
(Trump has been sent a "Target Letter" indicating he is under investigation and has been given until July 20th, 2023 to appear before the grand jury.)
Indictment
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing

Georgia - Election Interference
Investigation <- You Are Here
2 new grand juries impaneled 7/11/2023.
Indictment - July 11th to September 1st.
(Grand Jury work expected July 31 to Aug. 18)
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing

New York State - 34 felonies, Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Florida - 40 felonies, Federal documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
3 new felonies added 7/27/2023.
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, have not been announced.

The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one.

[–] whatisallthis@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

74 felonies. How big of a health bar does this boss have.

[–] transientDCer@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Any of the rest of us would have been in a jumpsuit and jail cell a long ass time ago.

[–] markr@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the left had sacked the capitol, a state of emergency would have been declared, a widespread and indiscriminate arrest and detainment of thousands of people tagged as 'leftists' would have occurred, and we would have been under martial law.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

California would have been preemptively nuked.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wheels of prosecution turn slowly. Normal people wouldn't be imprisoned yet, either.

Federal trial dates are typically 12-18 months after indictment in the US.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think what everyone is saying is that the indictments would have happened much sooner.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Us plebs would've also been jailed pending trial. Meanwhile, this dipshit is still getting on planes and spreading disinformation with zero accountability. With 70 felony indictments, he's still one of the most free people in the country.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That I can definitely agree with

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If Trump was black, the cops would have killed him by now.

[–] UnsyllabledQuickies@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the summary!

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks i appreciate the you are heres

[–] Jah348@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By "rock Trump world" I think they meant make absolutely no difference to anyone wrapped in right wing propoganda blankets. Tuning in last night it was about how the left is "grasping at straws" going after the poor "janitor"

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was going to post almost the exact same comment. This changes literally nothing for about 20% of the country. If anything, they will just double, and triple and quadruple-down on him being a martyr and these are all politically motivated charges.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More like 43% of the Republican voters.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Republicans represent roughly 1/3 of the registered voters. 43% of that would represent roughly 15% of the entire country.

[–] poopypants205@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This breakdown of voters should be included in every disclaimer on ever poll that’s comes out online, in the news, or on the radio. That’s not a small number of people, but it is a SIGNIFICANT minority and the country needs to not be held hostage by 15% of the population.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally agree and this is where our low voter turn-out really kicks us in the ass. These MAGAts vote and vote often. They might "only" represent 15% of voters, but if their rate of voting is 2X what other groups are, then they could easily represent 30% of the actual ballots cast. That is easily enough to swing elections in their favor... and all because regular folks are too lazy to go vote.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Regular folks are too lazy," to stand in line for hours, or were blocked by shitty regressive laws to block student votes, or their polling place was changed twice in a year, or any other of the myriad cheating mechanisms regressives have baked into the system.

[–] poopypants205@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup…that sucks. But the military taught me “no excuses.” We need to outlast, out organize, and out fight them. Volunteer to help - Teri Kanefield (she’s on mastodon) has some incredible tips - Obama calls it Citizenship.

https://terikanefield.com/things-to-do/

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re both right. I can’t demand someone working two jobs to take a bus across town and wait in line for two hours with their kids to vote, even if I think I would find a way to make it work. But if you have to take an hour of pto to vote, make plans, whatever level of reasonable effort and don’t just because it’s as hard as doing your taxes? Too bad, democracy isn’t supposed to be fun, it’s supposed to mean every citizen’s needs are acknowledged. Keeping yourself informed is hard and frustrating and if you can do it that’s the price.

When you brush off your civic duties because someone else will do them you have to deal with the consequences of someone else having done them or not

[–] poopypants205@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Couldn’t have said it better.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

It's not an excuse. Ignoring the systemic problems and blaming individual people who have literally no control is an abuse tactic, so it makes sense that would be the military's MO.

On a personal level, I operate the same way you describe. I do what I need to do, and I burn the energy and time and money that it takes to make that happen. But I have the choice to do so, and not everyone does.

Use the energy that would otherwise go to lambasting tired, poor, and overworked normal people and instead direct the anger at the people making us pay out the nose to have access to the basics, including the time needed to vote.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spoken like someone who has never voted because the reality is that the vast, vast majority of voting goes perfectly smoothly and is accomplished within a few minutes. But by all means continue to talk out of your ass and simply regurgitate the usual bullshit endlessly reposted on Reddit and Lemmy.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I vote every time I'm able, but sure, go off.

It doesn't matter what I do as far as voting, because my area is gerrymandered to such a degree that even my relatively left leaning area goes to a republican most of the time. We are vastly outnumbered in statewide and national elections. But I vote anyway. The voting is smooth here because they don't give a shit because it's all be rigged for over a decade via the legislature.

The places where voting is NOT smooth tend to be the places where republicans used to win, now have trouble, but don't quite have the power base to gut the whole thing, so they just add layers of complexity to shave off democrat votes in hopes they'll get enough to make it permanent.

Stop trying to act like this giant country, with 50 different ways of handling elections, is somehow a one size fits all, and that any failure is the lowest, least influential peoples' fault.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did they really though? One extra guy caught up in all this, but it's just sort of par for the course for Trump world. They'll just keep denying, deflecting, and calling out the "Biden Crime Family". I'll believe Trump world is thoroughly "rocked" if/when Trump goes to prison.

[–] norb@lem.norbz.org 21 points 1 year ago

This site has a pretty good and easy to understand listing of the different cases and their progress: https://indictment.fyi/

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump world sounds like a rough theme park.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump world. Come to spend all your money for nothing in return and also get sexually assaulted!

[–] Locuralacura@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if you try to tell anyone you were sexually assaulted, be prepared to have your family threatened with violence.

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

.. And I'll I got was this lousy t-shirt.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There's a fun form you can fill out where you get to make the park owner money and go to jail for them as they sit back and laugh at your stupid volunteer work

[–] Nommer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There's a roadside attraction I drove past recently in the northern part of Michigan called trump land. Had signs and shrines on both sides of the road. I truly do not understand how people can be that batshit insane and still be allowed in civilized society.

[–] FediFuckerFantastico@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Thank you very much for the very easy to digest explanation of his multiple investigations. We are living through an absolutely insane time

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