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More of these, please. (i.pinimg.com)

submitted 1 year ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to c/science_memes@mander.xyz

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[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Nice statue.

Fuck the Russian state.

[-] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago

Fucking ifunny

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

I know haha. I almost didn't post it for that reason and it's an old one but it came up in conversation again. 😅

[-] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They didn't sacrifice their lives, they were abused and killed against their will.

Calling it sacrifice is pretty disgusting.

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Yup. Those poor mice had all sorts of horrendous stuff done to them. They didn't sacrifice shit. They had 0 choice in the matter.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey!! How am I supposed to feel good about my human superiority complex if you come in here all rational like?? Let me be a speciesist in peace!1!1!

[-] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago

And? Do you want to test on humans or what?

[-] MildlyArdvark@feddit.dk 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s irrelevant. The comment was about the choice of words. It’s simply false to say the mice sacrificed themselves. If anything they were sacrificed by us humans.

[+] aeternum@kbin.social -12 points 1 year ago

there is no need to use animal testing anymore. There are supercomputers that are much more realistic than testing this horseshit on defenceless animals that are a completely different species to us.

[-] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I work in a related field and while I don't know anything about supercomputers being more realistic, there is a movement to eliminate animal testing and instead use organ-on-chip models - still using cells, but in vitro. The advantage is not only that you eliminate animal suffering, but also that you can use human cells, so your tests are much more quickly applicable to humans. In fact, in a far away future, you could even test with your cells and see how a specific treatment affects you. Super interesting stuff!

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

here's hoping that takes off and we can stop abusing defenceless animals.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As much as this freaks me out in an imagination-run-wild sci-fi wasteland way, I WISH we had tech like that. It would help so much with preventative medicine.

[-] Tomassci@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

There's also the idea of organoids for studying development without having to study the entire organism.

[-] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Computers can run a model...but you have to have real world data to create and improve the model. Plus there's always the chance the model is wrong or has some inaccuracy in it.

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

I'm in! Let's build them!

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Need some with primates, cats and other beings. Let's pray our advancements eventually let us pay mother nature back, in turn, after our current structures fall.