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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted, clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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[–] dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think the point is that the cover is never guaranteed to accurately represent the book.

Quality of cover =/= quality of book

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Although, I'll never buy a book where the author's name is in bigger, bolder font than the title of the book.

I hate that trend in cover design and I refuse to support it.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

DEAN KOONTZ
Newbury Award Winner
New York Time Best-Seller
The Lake Boat
First time in paperback!
With a Foreward by David Baldacci

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is this still a thing? I thought this was mostly popular in the 90s and dropped out of popularity in the last couple decades.

[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Definitely still see it for Stephen King at least, but frankly I'd be creeped out if I saw his name small at this point...

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, the point of a book cover is to sell the book...

[–] netvor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The point of a book cover is to cover the book.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the point of a dust jacket.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I thought the point of the dust jacket is to make books look shabby when they get crinkled and torn, so you can take it off and find a perfectly serviceable cover underneath.

[–] brainrein@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s one of the purposes of a cover, you could achieve it without any design effort.

But that’s not the point, not the main purpose of a book cover. Your previous poster is right, the cover is advertising the book.

[–] ngdev@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The "cover art***" sells it, then. They were trying to be funny I think lol

[–] Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 2 years ago

Maybe, the point still stands. I've read awesome books with boring covers and vice versa. Its really a good saying that does apply to most areas in life.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. Some are richly designed to showcase the book contents and others are not. That’s the entire point! It’s not the books with fancy covers that are always the best. You could find a plain cover copy of The Hobbit in your local library next to another copy that is oversized with a gold-embossed cover and an amazing painting showing the party of 14 plus a Wizard huddled on a mountaintop against the storm…

…and they’re still the same book.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

My copy of The Hobbit is really weird it's just leather and says The Hobbit in gold inset writing.

Absolutely nothing on the back, or even a barcode.

Really old books tend not to have covered designs that seems to be a relatively modern phenomenon.

[–] bigkix@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Yes, but you still don't know if the content is good or bad.

[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My go-to phrase now is , “don’t judge a book by its movie.”

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What they did to Foundation should be a crime.

[–] Littleborat@feddit.de -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The made interesting and visually engaging? Oh and soandso is a black woman now.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, clearly racism is the biggest reason to hate the Apple TV version. Not that the writers didn't understand the point of the books and turned Asimov's original thoughts on society into magic and mysticism.

[–] ruk_n_rul@monyet.cc 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It wasn't when the idiom was coined. Have you seen hard-bound books from the 19th century in libraries?

[–] _thisdot@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

didn't most books look the same back then?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe book covers should be auto-generated from the entire text fed to an AI artist

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I run Stable Diffusion on my computer, can you think of a relatively short novella to try this with? I have no idea what the limit for tokens is. To really "tech bro" it up we could feed it to an AI summarizer first.

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This seems most appropriate just have it generate one for each short story.

[–] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Unless they’re “as seen in the hit TV show!” in which case it’s okay to tear those covers off.

[–] Decimit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It was very true for movies in the 80s. The cover would sometimes not have anything to do with the movie at all. Horror and sci-fi movies would show monsters that never appeared in the movie.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

It’s not though. Books can, but don’t always, misrepresent themselves on the cover. Just like people.

It’s not saying that book covers always lie, it’s saying that you shouldn’t take everything at face value and you should think for yourself.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

I don't know aye, I have read some books that were amazing. Although the cover was really, really bad.

[–] netvor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I recently bought a book which spoke to me by its cover and it was one of the best books I've read in ages. And I still love the cover almost as I love the book.

But then there are books where I really disliked the cover but they are still great to have and full of useful information. (Most of these are non-fiction..)

I think the idiom misses the mark: judging is just one part of it. Being aware that lot of your judgments are going to be wrong, especially if you use only one source of information -- that is much more useful thing to keep in mind.

However, adages are (like) memes---the best ones don't always win.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm going to say it's like a chicken and egg scenario.

It's recommended that you don't judge a thing or a person based on a quick glance. That's good advice.

Book covers are designed specifically to be judged at a quick glance because they know that's what people do, despite the advice they were given.

[–] ngdev@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I think it's also true in reverse. Like if the book cover looks really cool but the story is hot garbage.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Whenever there's a "don't judge" statement, I always remember this post from Tyler The Creator.

Due to primal instincts, it's inevitable that we judge. So judge, but don't discriminate. Seems like a good system to me. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like that uses a loaded connotation of the word discriminate. That word really just means to differentiate things from each other or discern distinct things.

I think a better way to say it would be: “judge, but don’t pre-judge.”

As long as you’re actually judging evidence in front of you, great. If you’re making shortcuts to judgments using superficial cues, that’s where you run into trouble.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That's a good way of putting it.

[–] ethman42@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I was told that the rest of the saying is “but it’s a good place to start.”

[–] Merulox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

In real life, regardless of what people like to say there is more often than not a correlation.

Only, you shouldn’t take those for facts and shouldn’t make assumptions.

[–] croobat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Lolita would like a word with you.