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[–] grus@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a Romanian I want to tell everyone "you're welcome, world".

[–] Crayon8027@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thank you for this and also for all the delicious Italian food.

[–] grus@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Don't let the Italians know that our version of their dishes is better, they'll start throwing hands in 2 seconds flat.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (13 children)

As much as I'm glad that Andrew Tate is facing criminal charges, I think we need to address the root cause of our societal ills. Tate isn't the cause but rather a symtpom.

We really need to step back and ask ourselves why somebody so brazenly misogynistic has attracted a following of millions and has become a role model to teenage boys especially.

I can explain exactly why, because we've created a growing social underclass of men who cannot earn a living, cannot find a romantic partner, cannot live fulfilling lives, and anybody who they turn to either mocks them, fobs them off, or give them false platitudes, which is why they turn to toxic masculinity and the Manosphere for guidance.

The reality is that inceldom is largely an economic issue that has resulted from decades of stagnated wages which have disproportionately affected men, because despite our best efforts to create an egalitarian society, we still overwhelmingly find men unattractive if they are not the strong hunter-gatherers and providers that our biology has been conditioned over millions of years to find physically attractive. Our biology has not caught up to the millennia of societal progress we've made because evolution is a much slower process.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Hmm, I don't think I'm with you. You say men are incels because they're poor and can't find a girl. From what I've seen, they can't find a girl because of deeply rooted, misogynistic beliefs that turn people off. If also like to see your citation for wage stagnation affecting men more than women, because every study I've seen says the wage gap has stayed the same or widened in the last few years. I know many, many men who aren't the strong hunter gatherer type and have loving wives or girlfriends. The difference is those guys aren't assholes.

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[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Sorry, I'm currently one of those dudes who doesn't have a romantic partner and doesn't live what others would call a "fulfilling life". I haven't fucking decided that Andrew Tate or any of a thousand others are the guiding star of my life, nor do I feel I ever will. This idea of "society's to blame for incels" is pretty bad even on its face - most of these guys are told by these influencers (or their cultists) that they deserve not only a happy, prosperous life, but they shouldn't even have to actively work for it. According to this philosophy, they shouldn't have to go out and actively seek romance, women should be flocking to them in droves. As this does not happen, something must be fundamentally wrong with society - which is why a lot of these types also wind up spouting fascist rhetoric, and eventually fall into white supremacist pablum.

[–] Airazz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't agree with that. Being poor is not an excuse to be a shitbag. A lot of those guys aren't even trying to change anything, they put all the blame on corporations as if it somehow makes their behavior justified, and then spend their days on incel forums.

[–] like100dollars@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They didn't say it was an excuse. They didn't defend being a shitbag. They offered an explanation. You may disagree with it, but you're not talking about the same thing here.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

It's an economic issue in as much as this is what capitalism promotes and exemplifies. Psychopaths and sociopaths rise to the top. And all the other haters fangirl over them for doing it.

Some of the happiest most satisfied people I know are poor. They just don't have the massive entitlement to other people's things.

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[–] tookmyname@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I’m happy to be reading about this on a 3rd party app for a growing redddit alternative. Feels right.

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[–] SUPERcrazy3530@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Couldn’t happen to a nicer piece of trash.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And to think, all of this happened because he got owned by Greta Thunberg.

[–] GnothiSeauton@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe that was just coincidental timing. Not complaining though, because it made it all much more exciting.

[–] migo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It wasn't just timing. His reply to Greta was what led the Romanian police to know he was in Romania and close to which pizza restaurant.

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[–] kinther@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Good. Fuck that guy.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

I'll celebrate at conviction.

[–] hydra@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

One more grifter preying on young men has fallen. This is a nice day.

Also 666th upvote

[–] elenmirie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Preying on young women and young men. Probably being enslaved and trafficked is worse for the women than it was for the young men dragged into his sphere of influence. Thoroughly evil man.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Is there a /r/upliftingnews equivalent here yet?

[–] cpp_hleucka@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Top Grifter

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[–] figaro@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lollll I absolutely love that it was because of Greta Thunberg that he got caught.

Here's a quote from an article:

On Tuesday, Mr Tate, a former kickboxer and influencer who has been banned from numerous social media services for violent and misogynistic rhetoric, tagged Ms Thunberg in a Twitter post, asking for her email address so he could “send a complete list of my car collection and their respective enormous emissions”.

The tweet also featured Mr Tate filling up a gas-guzzling Bugatti supercar at the pump.

The following day, the climate activist responded with a tweet of her own, replying, “Yes, please do enlighten me. email me at smalldickenergy@getalife.com.”

He then took a picture of himself with a pizza box, which then led the Romanian authorities to where he was hiding, and was arrested.

Fuck yeah.

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[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

"Where corruption is accessible to everybody."

The boy must be a nobody.

[–] ziggysane@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

They say that if you can't say something good, you shouldn't say anything at all.

Andrew Tate has been indicted and will face trial on rape and human trafficking charges in Romania. Good.

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago
[–] dan_the_accountant@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Good, hope he gets locked away.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

About time. This slime lord needs a nice long jail sentence.

[–] Ratking@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Hopefully he gets convicted. The evidence is ostensibly damning, but sleazeballs like him always seem to manage to avoid real repercussions.

[–] Snowpix@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago

Well, well. If it isn't the consequences of their shitty, abhorrent behaviour! Here's hoping to a long, long prison sentence for these fucks.

[–] GordomeansPhat@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Always nice to see people face consequences for their terrible actions.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving fellow! It's rare that a person's achievements are repaid with the commensurate rewards... but this proves that such miracles do happen every now and then.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Couldn't happen to a more deserving attempt at a human... Hope Romanian prisons are appropriately hellish.

[–] sojourn@geddit.social 2 points 2 years ago
[–] BowflexPeloton@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago
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