NGL, this is a power move. Governments around Europe are looking HARD at their presence on Twitter. They might actually jump ship. This is why we have to continue pushing Mastodon.
this post was submitted on 30 Nov 2023
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But all of the elitists on Mastodon really don’t help persuade anyone that it’s worth using in a professional capacity
It's so weird, it's like they want to keep people away more than anything else
There are a lot of people on the Fediverse like that.
People don't like change. It's a short-sighted but understandable view to think "no, I don't want new people to come in and change things, I like it how it is!"
If I understand you correctly, you’re saying that governments might leave Twitter for threads and we should push so they use mastodon instead? Assuming that is what you mean, I don’t think that makes any sense.
For one, I don’t think government accounts are a main driver for social media users. No one ever said "I only use this service if the UK government has an account there". Governments go where the accounts are.
For another, you can push all you want, if it’s not something that people want to use it’s not going to work. Our best hope is for threads to actually implement activity pub and then being able to use other apps and servers, while still being connected to the "rest of the world".
the way i see it is the fediverse is email and threads is gmail. it's why i never understood why there was such a push by some to automatically defederate from threads before it even launched. threads is probably the best chance that the fediverse has to become mainstream, even if people using threads don't even know they're on the fediverse.
it's why i never understood why there was such a push by some to automatically defederate from threads before it even launched.
See Eternal September.
As an example, if Reddit decided to implement activitypub and federate with Lemmy, 99.9% of the content would now be coming from reddit users and you'd basically never see anything else. At that point, why not just go back to Reddit?
thats not really different than the majority of traffic on mastodon being mastodon.social.
The counter argument to this is that the government's public communication should be accessible to everyone. Government messages should be visible to the public without them having to register and log in. That is becoming increasingly more difficult in corporate social media, especially Meta's - Instagram and FB are good indicators.
The advantage of the fediverse isn't just that you can view public messages without registering. If you need to subscribe to something, you can do so from any fediverse platform - no need for another new account. This leaves it open for the government to choose or even host their own fediverse platform - something many governments are already doing.
Oh I’m not arguing with you there, I think activity pub should absolutely be used by governments one way or another. If for nothing else than hosting their own content.
Oh! I was not arguing either. I meant 'counter argument' as in justification. Points to argue a case for governments to choose the fediverse. Fediverse has no one other than its devs and users to argue for it.
Yes, let's switch from the dumpster fire that is twitter, to the competitor that didn't launch in the EU, because it has horrible privacy practices.
The internet in 2023
The internet in 2023 also brought us Mastodon, Lemmy and the rest of the fediverse (yes, they were there before. But the corporate social media finally managed to piss off enough users) and resurgence of IRC, Usenet, XMPP, etc, while services like matrix are going strong.
Yes - those are more exclusive and smaller in size. But they are viable (except perhaps the really old protocols). And we finally have something to look forward to. 2023 wasn't all that bad.
Fuck off, Meta!
Is Threads still a thing ??
I don’t want to be mean (also I’m not using threads and am using mastodon and Lemmy), but threads is multiple times more a thing than Lemmy or mastodon.
Mastodon, for example, has around 1.8 million monthly active users right now, where threads has around 100 million monthly active users. That’s a factor of over 50x.
Lemmy, in comparison, has 35k active users which is roughly a factor of 3000. So yeah, threads is still a thing.
The 100M Threads users isn't a real thing though is it? Didn't they just auto-add everyone with an Instagram account and claim that counted?
There were 100 million users after the first weekend, there’s certainly more now. Threads is using an Instagram account but people still sign up for it and have to download the app. It’s easier, but not automatic.
And this right here is 100 million monthly active users.
Do we have any metrics on that number other than Zucc saying "trust me bro"? That would be ridiculously impressive if they've actually kept those sort of numbers!
That was during an earnings call, I think that has a little bit of weight to it and I’m not expecting that to be on the same level as "trust me bro". But I obviously don’t have any insider info there.
I remember seeing that threads was losing users after the first week
Very anecdotal but I've asked my normie friends about Threads and they think it was hardly ever a thing. It may be 100 million active users but that's still a small percentage of the population it's available to, and given it's for profit that might not even be enough to sustain it. With Mastodon and Lemmy it's quality over quantity, I'm happy to be smaller, just hope we can keep Threads out if they last long enough to get around to federating.
Yes.
NO, GOD, PLEASE, NO, NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOO
Just in time for nobody to care.
So what? The Fediverse will already be available in Taiwan, Kenya, Peru, and Afghanistan by then.
Don't be surprised if your identity gets stolen, your accounts will be hacked, or you will get tons and tons of scam calls and phishing e-mails if you choose to use anything from Meta. They don't care about your privacy. People also don't care unless they are already in knee - deep shit. You've been warned.
i like threads for the more mainstream people i used to follow; i just wish they would implement activitypub so i can just follow them from my tech.lgbt account and not have yet another social account (thanks elon grr). for the same reason, i wish bluesky would also use activitypub. twitter imploding did so much work in splintering social media i think something needs to be done.
i think threads federating is great for the fediverse as a whole.
if it's mandatory to make an instagram account still, there's literally no point to use it over instagram
This makes no sense whatsoever. I’m not saying anyone should use either, but they’re not the same and just because you need the other account to sign up doesn’t mean it’s the same thing.
Threads. It has it all sewn up.
I'm curious if there'll be a jump in engagement with the rest of the fediverse or just mastodon.