If only Palestinians had a fifteen lane highway, they could have just all driven out of Gaza!
this post was submitted on 21 Nov 2023
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"From the river to the sea: that's how wide our roads should be"
"From the river to the sea: that's how wide our roads should be"
of the month! 
Gaza, famous for making the choice to be a "15 minute city"
Lmao this is incredible. A pro-Palestine 15-minute city conspiracy theorist.
He's not pro-Palestine, he's a deranged boomer convinced that "15 minute city" means walling off sections of cities into sections like they did in Deus Ex since they could only make the levels so big and explained it with conspiracies
Should tell him the Chinese are gonna come in with laser katanas and make us all take vaccines for the Gray Death
laser katanas
It was a jian made up of a non-eutactic solid tyvm
He's afraid of being able to walk to a store, he's not gonna know the difference
the only way to prevent fascism is to make sure it's a 20 minute drive to the nearest strip mall wendy's
Blaming the genocide of Palestine on sidewalks
how dare people want better livablity
These 15 minute nutcases are protesting all over the city near my town, and I'm not even British. This absurd right wing delusion is spreading outside of Britain 
It's just a reboot of an older conspiracy theory (Agenda 21). Every decade or so a new flavor of "what the fuck is urban planning oh my god they're commies trying to shove us into boxes" evolves and takes off.
Usually followed by "gated suburban communities in bumfuck nowhere are totally different though, trust me."
I had to talk down a hippie that I work with about this. It's so fucking weird that people think the government is just openly proposing putting the entire population in camps for no reason, but yknow, real actual existing oppression is totally ignored.
Well sure but the hypothetical oppression would affect them! And all those people currently experiencing actual existing oppression deserve it, actually.
As an urban theorist and historian how do you think this would be less difficult than bombing a suburb?
Suburbs are more spread out so obviously the chances of my house hit are getting lower.
Sure, I can't go anywhere once they destroy the only road connecting us to civilisation, but at least my property might be safe
I've heard that american suburbs took off in the 50s in part because of cold war fears of nuclear attack. (mostly white) middle class people with the means to move out tried to get away from bomb targets, and the government funded highways as a way to evacuate cities in an emergency and to encourage sprawl for "civil defense"
How much of an effect did it have compared to regular old capital flight (aka white flight)? That seems like a much more compelling reason to me
They also wanted to live as far away from black people as possible. I don't think it would protect you much against the kind of saturation bombing they're using on Gaza
I think so much of the cultural explosion of the 60s was a direct consequence of white flight, like I really wish they would give cities back to the people and just quarantine themselves in the suburbs again
"Urban theorist" is an even more useless title than urban planner lmao. At least urban planners want to do good, they're just ignored until they rubber-stamp pre-planmed prestige projects by the government.
There's fuck-all to theorize, what's good has been known for ages. The issue is not knowing what's good, but implementing it
At least urban planners want to do good
Highly debatable and more of a case by case basis. You get a lot of them coming at it from an "engineering" standpoint and fully carbrained
I suppose, though in my personal experience it's more a question of having your soul crushed and giving up at some point. Most planners I've interacted with want to - or at least started out with wanting to - do good. It's just incredibly difficult to do anything other than MORE ROAD or BIG EXPENSIVE OFFICE.
Oh I don't even mean the broken down people, not judging by the official position or what they actually do even, I get the constraints.
But even discounting those the field is still littered with fully car brained people entirely on board with whatever next planning crime is currently being done
urban theorist
Oh, like the completely unqualified douchebag a century ago that fucked the United States city planning ever afterward by prescribing carbrain shit for everything?
All shitty modern urban design goes back to Moses
The loss of Jericho was felt by all mankind.
Funny, but in case you’re not doing a bit: wrong Moses
Perhaps we could box this nerd into a box with 15 minutes of air...
The only way to escape getting killed by fascists is by embracing carbrain and conjuring up a few extra Earths to accommodate worldwide carbrain.
The solution is to crash Nibiru into Earth to make it bigger.
These people glomming onto the concept of 15-minute cities as the new great reset is amazing
Imagine if services I used were nearby and convenient. What a terrible world that would be.
Think about how many of the "anti pedo" and "anti sex trafficking", "satanic panic" leaders that come out of this cess pool end up being vile predators themselves.
So maybe.... if we leave these ones to their own devices it will turn out they are all covertly involved in totally sane interventions. Like they are out there at night doing DIY speedbumps and properly filling potholes thinking nobody will ever find out.
Let him cook
In a sort of "life imitating art" thing I feel like we're getting more "life imitatin AI" thing in that the only relation these two have is having something to do with the concept of city, but it gets hard-linked in these peoples brain that is usually reserved for computers
He's right you know. Look how hostile Gaza is to people just trying to get places in their vehicle:
does he think the thing that caused the Israel Palestine conflict was bike lanes
If they can't buy 5 ton pickup trucks and drive them 40 minutes to the nearest Walmart then they're not free 
The fact that someone would use this genocide to further an agenda against cities with better transportation and less cars is astoundingly evil. Anyone doing this absolutely deserves to be shot.
It's actually fucking insane. This disconnect from reality is baffling.
It is. My main issue is with how it's a literaly horror show occurring there and this toolbag is contorting it intentionally for utter bullshit. It's evil and the only thing these people deserve is a grave. Like holy shit have some respect.
"Making me walk is literally oppression."
And we're the "SJWs"?
"postcolonialism" is when you settle and colonize Palestine
Europe is full of 15 minute cities and last I checked they aren't concentration camps. Almost like you're probably not being rained bombs on in the imperial core. If urban design shouldn't be about improving people's day to day lives, we may as well just make underground cities and spend our whole lives in bunkers
Right wing conspiracy brained people can fold anything into their current obsession. Anything can be turned into an arguement for how 15 minute cities are a plot to trap and kill them because reasons.
Its like watching Alex Jones baxk in the day integrating every news story into the Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory