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[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Capitalism when people dealing with medical conditions:

This is bad for business

Also:

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My father told a story years back, in his field (chemistry) of someone stumbling across treatment for a disease using a common, widely available, and relatively inexpensive drug

The guy got blacklisted from working at universities and his paper buried

Years later (20 years?), it became discovered/commonly known

This is something the pharma industry does itself, it doesn't need any outside help

[–] Scew@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why cure anything when you can milk insurance for treatments for whatever it is for the rest of someone's life?

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

This has permeated the medical/pharmaceutical industry so much that it affects the way we conceive of disease. It's most pronounced in mental health.

[–] Melina@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

It’s over for big turkey

[–] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Bit idea, being antivax about ozempic.

I will not take the jab. I will eat the turkey. I will live in the 4xl jeans.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

geordi-no Pearl clutching about Americans being overweight.

geordi-yes Pearl clutching about Americans losing weight.

spoilerI hate this fucking country honk-enraged

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

I usually don't start political shit with people in real life but anytime anyone mentions poor people "spending all their money" and "not saving anything" I immediately bring up April 2020 and the fact that a single month of people staying home and not making frivolous purchases nearly collapsed the global Western economy.

Poor people literally can't save money or everything these people hold dear would come crashing down (which, sounds awesome but the fallout would be magically externalized to poor people like it always is).

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They're going to ban Ozempic for purely capitalist reasons aren't they. I guess we're about to see who is more powerful, the pharma industry or the agriculture industry. The agriculture industry is going to have allies in the entire fast food industry as well here so I have to imagine they're going to be the winners

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

What a profoundly stupid country this is

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

This would be really funny. I mean they let COVID spread rampantly for capitalist reasons so I don’t see why obesity curbs would be any different.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

they'll do it as a moral panic type thing. play up the side effects and shame fat people for not being able to eat less.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Someone please explain what ozempic is. Are we going to cringe at it 10 years from now like all the other diet stuff in the past?

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

It's a hormone-like anti-diabetes drug that's gotten popular as an off-label weight loss drug due to advertising and celebrity endorsements. It's absurdly expensive and administered via injection.

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Ozempic is the main reason Denmark isn't currently in a recession. it's made by Novo Nordisk, the biggest company in Denmark and also one of the biggest in Europe. It technically was developed as some type of diabetes medication and then was discovered to help people lose a LOT of weight very quickly.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Probably yeah. I am not super familiar but I think it’s just an appetite suppressant, big business bc obesity is a huge problem in amerikkka

It increases the risk of a few different types of cancer and may cause intestinal blockages.

My mom is diabetic (with a load of other issues) and it's the only medicine that helps her.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Big Pharma vs Big Ag fight

[–] davel@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Won’t somebody please think of the stonks-down!!

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lol, has this writer ever been to a 'Murican Thanksgiving? People are not eating because they feel hungry, they are eating because it's there. If anything I would guess the most common attitude is that the prescription would allow greater consumption, since it will be easier to deal with the Caloric excess down the road.

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know what Ozempic is but before that as someone who is not American I barely know what Thanksgiving is. Does it have a fixed date or is it one of those holidays that move around each year? Is there anything to it apart from eating turkey and mashed potatoes and fistfighting your uncle?

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s the ~~third~~ fourth Thursday of November every year. It’s an insanely fucked up holiday. The premise is that when the original English settlers got here, they didn’t know how to grow food or anything so a lot of them starved. Out of kindness the natives taught them how to grow the local crops, and when the pilgrims had their first successful harvest they invited the natives for a harvest feast to give thanks. Thus the first thanksgiving was a show of friendship and gratitude.

Now thanksgiving is a holiday to supposedly celebrate being thankful, when a family comes together and shares a harvest feast, stuffing themselves like hogs on turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, yams etc. and drinking copious amounts of alcohol. Some watch American football all day. Others just spend time together.

Of course this lovely rosy glow is built on the back of millions of victims of Native American genocide, which this awful holiday conveniently papers over. Many Native Americans have a day of mourning on thanksgiving.

My family doesn’t celebrate it.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So fyi, the whole thing with the pilgrims and the native Americans was a myth tacked onto to the holiday at a later date. A "Day of Thanks" feast in autumn was a pretty common tradition in parts of England, and when English settlers came to New England they kept up the tradition. The feast between the pilgrims and the Wampanoag tribe did happen, but it wasn't really anything of note in the history of that community. The tribe had made an alliance with the Puritan community and they simply invited them to a feast they were having to celebrate their alliance. It was noted in their colony's history but wasn't considered a big deal until historians stumbled on the story later.

So you could just as easily call it a "harvest feast" or whatever and ignore all the stupid colonial shit tacked on. Personally I don't mind an excuse to chow down with my fam, but I get why other people find it stupid.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah thanks for pointing that out. I was just about to correct my comment to point out that it’s bullshit, but my post is the elementary school lore.

We do have a harvest feast, we just do it on Saturday, to celebrate the arrival of our Christmas tree.

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ozempic is a medication for diabetes that helps control blood sugar and also has a moderate success at curbing appetites which overall helps people just not get as fucked by diabetes.

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a good thing that I will just guess is not affordable to the average American.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

It's a perk for the ghouls to hate fat people while needing more fat people around capitalist-laugh

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Congratulations millennials, we’ve successfully killed Big Turkey

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The drug companies: sicko-yes

The food companies: sicko-no

The Ozempics kelly