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Anyway obviously Hamas are a bunch of deranged freaks for taking some stimulants before going into battle. Unlike our wholesome IOF doing peaceful and cool drugs.

Proves once and for all that psychedelics don't actually make you a good person.

I wish a very traumatizing trip upon this occupier when a rain of missiles begins flying.

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 62 points 11 months ago

This sounds like a great way to get extremely brutal PTSD when something bad happens

[-] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 46 points 11 months ago

Yeah, for those who don't know, LSD increases nueroplasticity. As in, it makes it easier to train your brain into new patterns: it makes it more like a toddler brain.

So just like ACEs are more impactful at younger ages, war trauma hits harder on LSD

[-] TrudeauCastroson@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

So should people be learning difficult math and new languages and reading theory while high on LSD?

[-] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Can't hurt to try, but also, I've had things I'm studying click while I was tripping

[-] booty@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

That was literally my first thought, too. Like, LSD will make me learn better? Why the hell haven't I heard this before

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Problem is that we can't control what would be learned better. CIA had a lot of experiments with LSD and not a lot of success.

[-] WideningGyro@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

Weren't those mostly focused on it's use as a truth serum though?

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

They tried every use they could think of. The only successes were in "really fucking people up" direction.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Not while obviously, but I think the couple days afterwards would be best

[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago

sadly reading is hard on lsd because all the other departments of your brain are vying for attention too

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, there's a reason microdosing LSD is such a big deal in STEM

[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

(ACEs = Adverse Childhood Experiences)

[-] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

good, it's the least the fascist soldiers deserve

[-] WoefKat@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The guy's a conscript. He's forced to be a soldier. IMO he's a victim too.

[-] egg1918@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

No he's not. He could flee the country, he could go to prison, he could permanently injure himsel. There are many ways to simply not be a footsoldier for a genocidal regime.

In case you weren't aware, there was an israeli Taylor Swift fan who ran a fan account on Twitter who famously went to prison rather than participate in genocide.

[-] WoefKat@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

True I would refuse too. But I know I'm particularly anti-authoritarian. I can imagine this would be a big deal for some young people especially with family and social pressure going on.

[-] somename@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Refusing isn’t that long of a prison sentence.

[-] WoefKat@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's not? When I was young in the Netherlands it was a big deal. Luckily I got disqualified on the medical.

But I would have expected it to be a huge deal in Israel.

[-] somename@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

It's generally a few months I believe.

[-] KiraChats@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

yeah, a few months and they even split it up in to a few weeks at a time, wherein they ask you "you sure?" then a few weeks later you spend another few weeks in prison

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago
[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 44 points 11 months ago

Critical support to IDF conscripts tripping balls.

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 42 points 11 months ago

I love the writings of Hunter S Thompson but I feel like a lot of people have misinterpreted his work as "do hallucinogenic drugs in inappropriate and unpleasant situations lololololol" I remember there was a whole Vice series where people did it and unsurprisingly they hated it each time.

But to your point yes this person should definitely drop loads of acid during a war that's a great idea.

[-] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago

In fact I think the whole IDF should constantly drop acid until this conflict is resolved

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 33 points 11 months ago

I think the whole IDF should be dropped in acid until dissolved

[-] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

Now this is synthesis.

[-] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Most of what Thompson was doing was a satire about how removed the powers at be think drug users and non-conformists are. He was a weirdo, for sure, but a lot of his shit is political truths masked behind a lot of fiction

[-] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

there was a whole Vice series where people did it and unsurprisingly they hated it each time.

Hahaha hell yeah dude I LOVED that show back in the day thanks for bringing the memories back

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago
[-] plinky@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

Continuing proud traditions i see, need to use meth though

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Ah, Panzerschokolade is back.

[-] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

LSD can only make you experience new perspectives if you've bothered to learn about anything besides your preferred one.

It's not a drug of peace without the foothold of understanding to begin with.

I don't recommend it in general unless there's a specific thing that you've tried to understand for a long time and can't quite get past your inhibitions, it is absolutely not useful for gaining anything outside of what you consciously already know, but for whatever reason can't "wrap your head around".

It's basically a party drug

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

Techbros and other affluent assholes trying to take chemical shortcuts toward love and wisdom be like

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

it is absolutely not useful for gaining anything outside of what you consciously already know, but for whatever reason can't "wrap your head around"

Lots of weird comments in this thread trying to assert anecdotal experiences and opinions as a blanket truth. There have been lots of stories where trips have been able to bring the subconscious to the surface and given light to underlying truths hidden beneath

While I still believed I was cis, I displayed lots of behaviours for years that I was obviously trans (debating with my male friends that being a girl is way better than a guy, being happy whenever a friend would say I have the personality of a "cute girl") but I never once questioned my gender identity. My first trip (shrooms not LSD tho) I experienced explicit gender dysphoria for the first time ever and it was incredibly intense to the point of wishing self mutilation

The intoxicated hyper awareness combined with the increased neuroplasticity can absolutely make one gain useful insight that they've never once came close to grasping

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

I displayed lots of behaviours for years that I was obviously trans (debating with my male friends that being a girl is way better than a guy, being happy whenever a friend would say I have the personality of a "cute girl") but I never once questioned my gender identity.

I would argue this only validates their claim - there was already a level on which you were arguing for and practicing feminity, but hadn't connected that to a personal desire and ability to be a girl. You had a conscious awareness of all the aspects, you just hadn't packaged them together in an understanding of the whole.

[-] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You're describing what I'm saying. It can be useful for concepts you are struggling with, but it isn't going to introduce anything particularly new to the mix.

My post was in the context of a violent war criminal, for instance, would not automatically see the light unless they were already dealing with guilt on some level.

[-] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

Acid showed me "new" things, but they were things like

"besides physical sex and mental gender, you have a spiritual gender and its trans, but you're still cis on the material plane"

or

"The universe is profoundly beautiful, but the material plane cast in illusion to make it seem ugly. The awe you feel in an old growth forest is a small glimpse past the illusion."

and

"you are in valhalla, but you're not supposed to be here yet. Acid let you cut the line and the consequences will be disastrous."

Like, it doesn't tell you anything true or useful.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"The universe is profoundly beautiful, but the material plane cast in illusion to make it seem ugly. The awe you feel in an old growth forest is a small glimpse past the illusion."

Like, it doesn't tell you anything true or useful.

I-was-saying

[-] LordBullingdon@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Psychedelics put you in a kind of hyper-associative state, and yeah I agree the associations you make will either be nonsense or else ideas that are already in your mind anyway. They can be useful for people that are really working overtime to repress something, which is probably why society was so mind blown by them in the 60s

[-] WideningGyro@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

They can also just be really fun, and help you have extremely deep connections with the people, places and art that you love.

I feel like expecting/requiring anything more than that is ceding ground to the new age cranks of the past and the dipshit techbros who have co-opted these drugs more recently.

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

It's actually why I have a hard time with people talking about the spiritual qualities of acid, I only took some a couple of times to party (and it was pretty great no cap) but it for sure didn't really open any new perspectives for me

So it's mostly my bias, but I don't see it as an answer to really any real world problem.

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