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yeah right BBC ,who told you that anyway ?

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[–] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i just want to point out that the claims in this article are from Netflix ,so take them with a grain of salt

[–] hh93@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

they are in their official quarterly report and not in some press release though aren't they?

if they lie on that it could have some bad consequences

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

They also stated

While the company added subscribers, it said average revenue per member fell 3% from a year earlier. That was partly because many of the new sign-ups came in countries where Netflix charges lower prices.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/netflix-tops-wall-street-forecasts-with-password-limits-ad-option-2023-07-19/

[–] cnqr@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the people in this thread including (and specifically) the OP are worse than reddit at its worst in terms of confident ignorance.

They reported these numbers in their quarterly reports. A company that trades on a public stock exchange is required to release quarterly reports that accurately represent their business.

Yes, companies like to play around with which metrics to report on to paint it better than it actually is, but the numbers can not be made up. If they say new subscriptions, it had to be new subscriptions.

[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When they told me I won’t be able to protect my ip address by asserting I was no longer allowed to have a vpn I quit Netflix

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really don't understand that tech. If you have wireguard on your machine, it shouldn't be able to leak your IP address in theory. Do they rootkit your PC or some shit?

[–] DanNZN@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 year ago

I would imagine that they are looking for IP addresses of known VPNs.

[–] benaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, if you put it on a router, how would they know? Was going to set up wg to route to one IP to allow multiple households - but after the witcher fiasco I thought 'fuck it' and unsubscribed.

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[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

What they do is they monitor the ownership of blocks of ip addresses they call it autonomous systems numbers or ASN’s it’s basically the way that farms of servers claim ownership of ip addresses

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

While I'm not particularly happy about the change it's not password sharing being banned that will eventually get me off Netflix. For now what keeps the sub going is their good and varied kids show selection with a lot of edutainment. Something I feel the others desperately lack. And any parent who has ever tried sailing the seas instead of paying knows how much of a pain in the ass it is to find good kids content and enough of it to guarantee you have something available when it's desperately needed to make the day work. Especially when your mother tongue isn't English. And YouTube is mind cancer for kids in my firm opinion; if you don't sit and watch with your kids which defeats the purpose of screens as a tool for when you need to cook, clean and work.

The people who shared our sub were mostly family that when we started sharing were students without the means to reasonably pay for it themselves but now they have jobs and some even kids so our family has gone from 1 sub to 3 that I know of.

[–] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i totally agree that YouTube is mind cancer for kids. it is like cigarettes it's damaging to the brain and kids should not consume it until they are older and even then one shall not consume it at all from the start for his own good

[–] Ugetsu@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Same here. My children, mainly my daughter, use Netflix MUCH more than my wife and I. So the "just pirate the stuff" doesn´t really apply. If I want to see a specific movie or series, sure. But my kids don´t even watch with the intention of finishing a series or whatever. They browse and watch what catches their eye. That can´t be easily done with pirated stuff. And for me and my wife, it´s kinda similar. We don´t have the time or interrest to watch that many movies. Most of the time, we have like an hour to spare, we plop down on the couch, browse through what new cooking or duocumentaries there are and just watch something.

Now, at the moment, we still use a friends account. Seems like the "Kids" profile still works and on mobile everything still works fine. But as soon as that´s over, I can´t promise that I won´t have to get my own account...as much as it saddens me.

[–] rooster_butt@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm on the same boat but worse. I only let my kids watch shows in Spanish. Its impossible to find Latin American Spanish kids shows on the seven seas so I'm stuck with Netflix because they actually have good translations.

[–] ancoraunamoka@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why don't you teach them english? Legit question. I went through the same thing when I was a child and eventually learn english by the age of ~7/8

[–] rooster_butt@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I live in an English speaking country. Spanish is the foreign language for them. Spanish at home is part of the effoet for them to be bilingual.

[–] Pyrozo007@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Second-hand and charity shop DVDs are your friends here

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[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why not put some kids cartoon channels on the TV?

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TV? Like IPTV you mean? Haven't had regular TV since moving out two decades ago. I could but naturally my kids have all already experienced the "select what you want to watch" era already so putting that genie back is just unnecessary conflict and borderline cruel. And IPTV services also cost money unless you go the free piracy route but then reliability goes out the window in my experience.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd just let my kids play with bugs/friends outside then tbh over paying for netflix

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course they do that as well, but a day is long and I live far out in the woods, nearest friend is at least 5 min by car and they're too young to bike there alone.

Plus what do you think kids these days talk about with their friend? Hell even I that grew up with cable TV spent most time with my friends talking about and playing out our favorite shows. At that age.

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[–] mikezila@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

On TV? What TV? Cable TV? Where do you think you are lol

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wonder how many cancelled?

[–] Moc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Probably more than they’d like you to know

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[–] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

expected, but not a sustainable growth, there is a finite number of conversions here.

[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Netflix is a publicly traded company, lying about something like a huge increase in subscribers would get them in legal trouble for lying to investors.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

People are so disappointing.

[–] stephfinitely@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate these head lines. It is too early to know if this has an actual impact of subs. Since some might still have a free trial and might cancel after or after a few months of paying.

[–] NaoPb@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In the style of that headline I'd like to say:

Suggestive headline fuels a rise of article views, experts say.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I've cancelled but only because very few shows are interesting/ worth watching.

[–] BrandoCalrissian9229@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have family members who are otherwise not worried about having to save money who are dropping netflix as soon as they get done binge watching their current show. Why? because they are paying for four people to use the account, and because of their new rules their parents aren't getting to use the account since they don't live in the same house.

I hate to break it to you netflix, but octagenarians who have no idea how modern technology works aren't going to understand how to setup an account, and they definitely aren't going to want to deal with having to call their children every week when they are asked for the "permission code" just to have the privelege of accessing what their children are already paying for.

On top of this, I'm sure their children don't want to have to deal with having to input this on a weekly (or however so often) schedule. It's a frustrating situation all around, and I have no idea why they thought it was a good idea.

[–] AfterAll@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago
[–] cccc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is good news. Means they’ll leave us alone.

[–] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's another way to look at it

[–] BraBraBra@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

As long as they continue to pump out content pirates win.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m not particularly surprised. I think a lot of people are using it for free because they can.

They still value Netflix, but why pay for it if you don’t have to.

For some reason I’ve not been kicked off my parents account, but if I were kicked off, I’d subscribe.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Idk. This shit is why I decided to get into piracy rather than paying so much to a stupid corporation.

I don't want to reward their shit behaviour, if anything because if it works others will follow suit and soon enough you will have to do this shit for all subscriptions.

[–] ancoraunamoka@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this report is a lie because their password / permission / multi account checking is still not properly configured. In my circle of friends all of them said they would jump the ship because they were mostly paying it for their old parents. At the moment, only one person of the group had nuisances because of password sharing, the others are continuing to use netflix as they were doing six months ago.

[–] StreetOwl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Probably not a lie people are just kinda dumb

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