this is my first comment here, just wanted to say that it's so nice to find a corner of the internet where i can be an openly vegan communist and vibe with similar ppl. I'm so tired of tiptoeing around "based" carnists that go full chud once you eat a veggie burger in front of them or ask them to not be speciesist. sorry for the mushy comment but ty yall 😭

the meme: "you're just lazy, right?"
the comments: "how dare you call me lazy, I actually enjoy hurting others"

you guys know there's a such thing as humane and carbon-negative pork right?

I would simply do photosynthesis

Pretty disgusted at the carnism in this thread.

We don't have enough edgy carnists comments in here so idk guess I would murder the pig or whatever, not like it has any feelings, and my momentary enjoyment of its taste is worth more than its life. I am a good leftist btw.

Idea for a bit: a vegan Objectivist who lets the trolley hit the pig because he wasn't going to eat the pig anyway.

vegan thread breaks containment

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My only problem with this meme is that it implies that every time you eat meat you commit murder, when in reality, the horrific meat industry will continue to murder regardless of whether or not you as a single individual choose to consume it’s products. The belief that an individual decision to not eat an animal “saves” that animal is what is partially behind disgusting subversions of veganism, such as “plant-based” capitalism.

I would draw a comparison with ingredients such as palm oil. Palm oil is obtained primarily through literal slave labor, but individually purchasing palm oil products (of which make up the vast majority of products in general) does not really change anything. On the other hand, if you had a concentrated, influential movement to stop buying palm oil products, refusing to buy them could empower that movement and contribute to the end of that slavery.

But, that does not mean that veganism is an invalid movement. Far from it. It simply means that the onus to become vegan is because it empowers a social movement that can end this horrific industry, rather than because of a individualistic consumer choice.

This is why I have a hard time morally judging my friends and family for not being vegan, but are vegan myself. Veganism is a political position, and I treat it similarly to the people I care about being . I should correct them when I can, but they are not individually terrible people for having the wrong political opinions (and, to a degree, behavior).

can someone please explain why vegans are allowed to engage in sectarian gatekeeping? Anarchists and MLs are rightly prevented from fighting about who is and isn't a real leftist, that should extend to vegan users not saying we're not real leftists for eating meat or using animal products.

Protect pigs, eat beans.

I see the post

I see 200 comments

Muh multi tracking pork and bean treats hue hue hue

Sounds like we need another Dominion viewing.

Carnist Catch 22, if it hits the beans then they'll be destroyed and you'll have to eat the pig to survive.

pushing the lever becos i don't have a can opener and I'm thinking about thos beans

In this scenario, it appears I am a beautiful, divine creature, and I would be free of sin. I crush the trolley between my tendrils and devour it.

least problematic carnist be like:

i cant really empathize with animals like how i can with people. i hit dogs with my car on the way to work all the time (once a week or so). its unavoidable because they charge into the road from their yards and its too windy to move out of the way usually so i mostly just accelerate into them & drive over their bodies.

if i hit even one (1) person id never live with the guilt and quit my job. its unfair to expect one (1) puppy to equal one (1) human. (i know you dont expect that, but i feel better if i write this idk why).

how many puppies would i have to hit before it was enough for me to care much? it would have to be like when the cicadas come out - piles and piles of puppies for miles. i just value my fiance having nice things more than the lives of those dogs, even though i like puppies a lot. i will continue to hit dogs with my car, it is the natural order of things.

some details changed to protect the innocent & make dunking easier

this is a weird thing to admit online, friendo!

Oh good, we haven’t had this since federation

vegan containment breach, alert the prime minister

As someone who had pork and beans for lunch I must say idk

oh boy howdy! love me a good lefty meme! i am sure the replies to this lefty meme will be very normal & not full of people having emotional breakdowns over vegans existing!

Hexbear self-crit non-fans: "I punch the person that reminded me I make this choice".

Real big brain takes in here like "but have you considered that I don't think animals are sentient"