Will this happen before or after the year of the Linux desktop?
this post was submitted on 28 Oct 2023
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Fire up the Linux POSSE and it happens all at once!
That got delayed because elitists put all their effort into attacking things that make it easier to use for normal people rather than working to improve the experience for all
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The title seemed quite negative but the article is quite good.
I hope that POSSE is the future but the layperson will not host their own site that serves as their "identity" which makes me feel that at some point we will have "identity management" services which will again centralize part of the web (in a less worse way)
Lets cut to the chase and figure out decentralized identity management
Is this not what blockchains do?
Blockchain is a 0 trust distributed ledger. It can store anything. The 0 trust forces it to do expensive things. That make it not worth it
No.
And even if they did, there's literally 1234567x different, better ways to solve that problem or any problem than "blockchain".
Lol blockchain still lookin' for a problem to solve.
I can see it happening if it becomes an "appliance", similar market to what the home assistant green doodad is going for. "put this shiny blue cube full of hard drives into your kitchen, and join the identiverse! it also comes in purple!"
THIS IS A RED CUBE HOUSEHOLD
The age of people willing to go through the effort to start and maintain their own website has LONG since passed.
A nice utopia... but one that won't ever be real, sadly.
I was one of them. I won't do it now. Security threats have become so time consuming nowadays to handle.
A static website on a simple shared host isn't really an issue security wise, and even WordPress has become much better in that regard as it has automatic unattended upgrades these days.
The problems are bots spamming, or attacking to gather PI. Too much effort. We can't have nice things anymore
Neither can happen on a static website.
And if you are doing POSSE anyways, you can just embedd a Mastodon feed for comments if you really want that.
I am talking about "forum-like" websites not static web pages. The article is about fediverse
The article is mostly about POSSE and how to manage sharing links to your blog to many different social media sites.
Static website builders are often specifically designed for blogs.
Tbf, these days you don't even need to do the entire weight lifting of maintain your own website for the most part. I mean, we do are users at SDF, right?
POSSE’s problems start at the very beginning: it requires owning your own website, which means buying a domain and worrying about DNS records and figuring out web hosts, and by now
You don't need your own domain to have your own site. Sure, it's ideal to have, but not necessary; all you need is a "community name provider" that you trust to remain trustable for as long as you care to maintain your webpage. For me, that could have been Geocities back in its time; now, well, it's SDF. ~~Neocities is tempting me tho~~
Buying your own domain I feel like it's oversold and overblown. Domains these days barely mean shit when it comes to security, authenticity or longevity (as we've seen with eg.: the entire .ml fiasco, or the fact that you can very perfectly get malware from domains like Steam's or Microsoft's).
This sounds nice on an abstract level but how do you implement communities with that?
I mean, if I don't want my regular persona connected with my Chuck Testa erotica that can be solved by having two domains and two POSSE stacks. Costs money but is easy enough in principle.
I might be perfectly fine with the same persona/domain being associated with both my work (Befunge enterprise software development) and my more normal hobbies (interpreting D&D characters as rappers). But the people interested in the hottest developments in two-dimensional ERP software will probably not be interested in my new article on how ill Illmater really is.
So how do I separate these? Tags don't seem powerful enough for this task; if I have to tag every article with every group of interested people then most posts will drown in tags and careless use of a tag might lead to the equivalent of posting an emphatic affirmation of LGBT rights to a version of Truth Social where the only form of moderation consists of raiding the offender's blog.
For that matter, how do you moderate POSSE? I can't come up with a reasonable way to do so.
In the end it seems that it's a really cool concept if used by renowned tech evangelists and just about nobody else.
About the first point, why not have multiple accounts like we do now?
Make an account for each use case on the platform where it makes sense
Where did this title come from? Seems like a strange editorial choice on the poster's part.
- It's in author's words.
- It's not far down in the article.
- I just assumed it was relevant to this audience.
- That's not heavy editorialising to me.
- It is quoting the article, and I freely admit that.
I'm doing POSSE to mastodon, but for everything else I host my own instance like Lemmy, PeerTube, blog (RSS), Pictures (RSS), Matrix.
I love this part right here about POSSE:
"The idea is that you, the poster, should post on a website that you own. Not an app that can go away and take all your posts with it,"
This is the best summary I could come up with:
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Instead of a half-dozen platforms competing to own your entire life, apps like Mastodon, Bluesky, Pixelfed, Lemmy, and others are building a more interconnected social ecosystem.
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In the last year or so, though, particularly after Elon Musk’s Twitter acquisition alerted users to how quickly their platforms can change or die, POSSE has gotten some traction again alongside ActivityPub and other more open ideas.
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POSSE’s problems start at the very beginning: it requires owning your own website, which means buying a domain and worrying about DNS records and figuring out web hosts, and by now, you’ve already lost the vast majority of people who would rather just type a username and password into some free Meta platform.
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Reece says he’s interested in building tools to aggregate and make sense of replies, likes, comments, and the rest, but it’s a much harder prospect.
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Reece mentions a tool called Bridgy, which both allows cross-posting and aggregates social media reactions and attaches them to posts on your site.
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Modern social networks are not a single product but a giant bundle of features, and the next generation of tools might be all about unbundling.
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