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    [–] brckd@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    what if you didn't even want to, but god still says so

    [–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    [–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago

    This is before you ever see the desktop. You HAVE to do it. It's part of the Windows installation now.

    [–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

    Windows update: hold my beer

    [–] railsdev@programming.dev 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Couldn’t you always create folders in the Start menu? Is it taking 30 minutes to enable only that? I have so many questions.

    [–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    That's just a hint / it cycling through things you can do with windows. It shows those while its updating

    [–] railsdev@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

    Oh okay. I thought OP was saying it’s a new Windows feature.

    [–] H2207@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It is Microsoftpenis we're talking about here.

    [–] junezephier@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I did a fresh install of 11 recently and it took heckin forever after restrating like twice and doing lots of "setup"

    It was a great processor and on a decent ssd, so i do think they've just increased how long the setup takes

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Oldest developer trick in the book. Program in a bunch of useless delays everywhere. On the next few updates, slowly remove them and say you are "improving" the system.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

    Just use windows 10 in a vm

    [–] Dutchdodo@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

    If our planning is anything to go by: easily half an hour longer than 10, if you do a manual install.

    [–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/linux/install

    Only want to run Linux as your primary operating system? If you are good with a slightly more complicated install process and don't need access to Windows tools (like Outlook, Teams, Word, PowerPoint, etc), you can run Linux on bare metal to access the full potential of your hardware without any overhead from virtualization or emulation.

    [–] bestonecrazy@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

    They know they cannot stop those determined. So they worded some parts to try to make it sound like "it will inconvenience you and Linux is hard" so that people are like "Ok, I will not do it if it is hard".

    [–] Johanno@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

    Funny, but did you manage to install it on a way too old pc or are you using hdd as System drive?

    Because it just seems to install as normal, but slowly.

    I mean Linux may take the same time if you install sth like popos which ads a lot of "bloat"

    [–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    This is on an M.2 with a i7-10870H and a 3080M. I installed Windows some days ago on my main Desktop and didn't have to deal with any of that. It must be a new "feature".

    [–] Johanno@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well then I wonder what the fuck Windows is doing? Running crypto miners?

    [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

    Would you put it past Microsoft?

    [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

    When I had to reinstall Windows 11 on a laptop at work with an 11th Gen i7 it took a good 30+ minutes of it faffing about between finishing the setup wizard and reaching the deskfop and when I to installed PopOS on a much older laptop with a 6th Gen i7 it took less than 5 minutes to perform the install

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    [–] H2207@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

    The last 30 minutes of peace until chaos and disorder.

    [–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

    Installing Debian took like 5 mins, doing all the configuration and stuff.

    [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Isn't that just updating from the internet? What if you disconnect it?

    [–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I think if you've connected to the net while installing you're done for. XD

    [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    You can bypass the network and MS account requirement using a registry entry. Thankfully, they included a handy script that will do it for you, located at C:\Windows\System32\OOBE\bypassnro.bat. The easiest way to run it is

    1. Press Shift+F10 during the OOBE. This should bring up Command Prompt.
    2. Type oobe\bypassnro (no spaces, case insensitive).
    3. The computer should now restart.
    4. Unplug any network cables.
    5. When prompted to connect to a network, you will now see “Not now”. Click it and proceed.

    Bonus tips:

    1. When creating a local account, use a short name without spaces, ideally one that won’t doxx you if leaked. I use cnc. You can change the displayed name (but not Users folder name) later. Read more about this in the last paragraph.
    2. Once you’re on the desktop, copy winutil-main.zip you get from this GitHub repo’s ZIP download onto your new PC. You can now eject and use your installation/recovery flash drive to transfer the file, it won’t interfere with its functionality. Follow instructions on the repo’s page for running it.
    3. Uninstall bloat like Spotify; disable telemetry, Microsoft Edge etc. using Winutil’s GUI while you're still offline.
    4. Only now connect the network cable or Wi-Fi.
    5. Use Winutil to quickly install some handy programs like a web browser, Classic Shell, VS Codium, Notepad++, Git, Krita, GIMP, Steam etc. (your choice) from official repos.
    6. Use Explorer Patcher to restore Explorer’s (mainly taskbar) functionality that got removed after 8.1 (clicked clock shows seconds, semitransparent non-blurring taskbar that can be enabled in Classic Shell).

    Bonus trick for installation, which comes in handy before you start OOBE: Unlike Linux, when asked to select partition to install to, you cannot repartition your disk in the GUI. But you can do that from another OS, or even right there: press Shift+F10 to bring up Command Prompt, run diskpart and follow guides online on how to use it. What you want is the following partitions:

    • At least 120 GiB (122882 “MB”) for Windows (C:, NTFS), more if you want to install modern games, on an SSD
    • A big round number of GiB for storage (to convert to “MB” (actually MiB), multiply by 1024 and add 2 to avoid Explorer showing an unsatisfying number like 499.99 “GB”) (D:, NTFS) next to the system partition or to an HDD
    • At least 50 GiB (51202 “MiB”) for installing Linux to later (don’t format), on an SSD
    • Maybe a backup partition on the HDD?

    You can change your username later but not paths like C:\Users\cnc\AppData\Local\Temp, spaces in which cause headaches. Also, move Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures and Videos to D: (look up how to do that).


    This is about how I go about doing a somewhat clean, safe install of Windows 11. No sus binaries involved. Yes, Linux is better and you should install it on its partition right away; then you can symlink your home folders to D:.

    [–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ayyy, another Greek, hello there!😄

    [–] ReverseModule@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] RoseRose56@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

    Is there a gathering for Greeks? Count me in!!!

    [–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    Ένα φρέντο σκέτο φιλαράκι

    [–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    God is doing you a favor :^)

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