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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

It's pretty understandable. Many companies do not want to use their platform to give terrorists a voice.

[–] afunkysongaday@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Title is a bit misleading. Those channels are not blocked on Android in general, but only on the play store version of telegram. Download from F-Droid instead and that's that.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I can do without terrorist channels.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the principal of the matter.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you feel the same about Nazi channels?

[–] avater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'd be upset if Nazi accounts were banned?

[–] avater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, of course not? Did I get the question wrong?

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone said they were okay with these accounts being banned. You replying "it's the principle of the matter" made it sound like you were disagreeing with those bans in free speech or anti-"corporate" censorship like many other commenters were saying. So I asked if you were okay with them banning Nazi accounts, which you agreed with so maybe I misunderstood?

[–] GuidoMancipioni@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a different person, dude

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Whoops my bad

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not sure how I feel about this, Google isn't the law but it is their platform...but the app is the platform that hosts them and they haven't been forced to remove any other groups.

[–] nezbyte@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Telegram has removed terrrorist groups such as ISIS before. See this 2019 Wired article

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the other hand Facebook doing nothing literally spiralled Myanmar into ethnic cleansing.

So sometimes a bit of moderation is better

[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel is already doing ethnic cleansing so... I wouldn't really call this a win

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] burchalka@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Same here. I think censorship is bad - but looks like Google really want to distance themselves from anything Hamas related, and even Telegram bosses who didn't bend for Russian government pressure (couple of years ago there was an attempt to control or block Telegram there) prefer to stay away from it...

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

They're also legally liable for content on their app store, which is one of the big (maybe biggest) reasons they bother to monitor it so carefully. Their app store moderation is genuinely heavy-handed at the best of times, but it makes sense for them to distance themselves from Telegram in this case.

It also entirely makes sense that Telegram has only limited their changes to Android as a response. Apple customers are where the money is at anyway.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good, Hamas terrorists and their apologists should not be given a platform.

[–] Sitcom@monyet.cc 32 points 1 year ago

Israel and their apologists should not be given one, either.

[–] bookmeat@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

This is just another parameter that will now be built into future chat software; no high level control over channels or groups by any central authority. The Internet will route around all obstacles.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They shouldn't submit to arbitrary censorship, even if I also disagree with Hamas, Google could do it to anyone they disagree with. Telegram should move to (or at least also be on, with an uncensored version) F-Droid.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you think blocking literal terrorists is "arbitrary censorship" then I don't even know what the fuck you are looking for in a society.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One where we treat HAMAS and IDF the same way

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Seek professional help then. Seriously, before you hurt someone.

[–] steven@infosec.pub 13 points 1 year ago

They are. There's a FOSS version of Telegram on f-droid.

[–] coffee_poops@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

This is why I don't use a messaging app that allows non-participants to control my conversations.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Wow Google, that's pretty not evil of you!

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Hamas channels, or Hamas channels promoting violence?

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First good thing Google has ever done.

[–] smolyeet@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

🙄 way to be over dramatic