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Half way through the book the wall collapses, and having no job, he shoots David Bowie in Berlin after discovering he has underage groupies. The rest of the book is him being put on trial with all the teenagers and real life musicians he beat up testifying against him.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Folks when our turn comes we have to not be dickheads about youth culture.

[–] disownthelibs@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Oh fuck no, the old people in the Soviet Union were absolutely right to hate rock and roll and blue jeans. Shit is corrosive towards the soul.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn when did we start siding with the Moral Majority

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

First of all, I won't allow anyone to say "Jerry Falwell" without the title “comrade”.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Joined 5 days ago

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

true. After The Revolution the only music allowed by the state will be free jazz and wall noise, and the only clothing will be latex bodysuits, bolo ties, and religious garb.

[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if i can't wear a baggy utility jumpsuit after the revolution whats even the point? i guess i can deal with the religious garb thing, i love robes.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Baggy utility jumpsuits are actually really cool and I want me.

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We should return to tunics as the main garment. Trousers are just PPE for horseriding.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Tunics are awesome. they're like t-shirts if t-shirts weren't shit.

[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Can't ever trust a guy in a tunic.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

let them cook

[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

blue jeans are at least corrosive to the balls, who tf puts a huge rough thick seam right there

also corrosive to hip mobility, never try to do parkour in jeans.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Who? I do. I do it for fashion, and because because I'm used to it and honestly don't know what other pants to buy. But it does suck.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Ok could you like actually explain why then

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no that's silly. Rock and roll is literally just a way of structuring the beat of a song. It makes just as much sense to say doo wop is corrosive towards the soul

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Besides nobody listens to that shit anymore.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

👖 🪨 🥖 = death-to-the-poor

I see your point, comrade. We must unleash the terrorsphere on the rock and roll hall of fame.

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

When our turn comes, we will make no excuses for the terrible music

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I-was-saying

i'm gonna be a dickhead about youth culture

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's what the youth want part of the fun of it is rebellion and defining their own thing.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's not rebellion unless there's an old curmudgeon scolding them. It's dialectical

[–] disownthelibs@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the left doesn’t have a monopoly on the concept of rebellion. Plenty of young people end up right wing with old leftists scolding them

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[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

oh he'll yeah new disco elysium game just dropped

[–] LordBullingdon@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The vapidity of youth culture notwithstanding, it’s something that should have been understood and embraced by the late USSR, along with funding for pop culture arts and a progressive/harm minimisation legalisation of drug use, it could’ve re-energised the youth in favour of socialism rather than seeing it as decrepit, boring and repressive and been a big propaganda win against the West

[–] kot@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

The USSR fell because of a neoliberal coup, not because the youth wanted to listen to rock music. The dissolution was voted against in the referendum, there were riots on the streets and the supreme soviet was fucking bombed.

[–] disownthelibs@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Are you even a fucking tankie?

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

if the USSR was around today and soviet youths could see how stupid their western counterparts are via the internet they'd probably all be patsocs.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

dubois-depressed Hardcore? To the mega? Anodic dance music? Just help me solve this murder, dammit!

[–] pillow@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This music, if one can call it such, is created from the sect of ‘shakers’ – dance that induces people to ecstasy, trance and makes them into wild animals ready for any wild action. This type of music is created with the help of psychiatrists so as to influence the brain and psychology of the people. This is one type of musical narcotics under whose influence a person cannot think of fresh ideas and are turned into a herd. It is useless to invite such people for revolution, for building communism.
- Stalin

badeline-scream ☁️

[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

how many successful revolutionaries were ravers lmao, my man joe steel never misses

seriously tho look into CIA funding for the arts back in the day, we propped up mr. soup can painter to prove that capitalists had 'better culture' than the soviets, we propped up 'show don't tell' style writing/analysis to prevent the masses from having detailed and abstract thoughts/criticism. even if whatever specific music mentioned isn't a CIA op it would have been a safe bet to assume it was in that historical context lol.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we propped up 'show don't tell' style writing/analysis to prevent the masses from having detailed and abstract thoughts/criticism.

Do you really want the alternative of "tell don't show" though, because that's how you get Atlas Shrugged's infamous 60-page John Galt speech

[–] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

its also how you get Dostoevsky afaik

edit: which as an american i obiously haven't read lol, my bookshelf here is like 80% trashy warhammer 40k novels

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah but it's also how you get Brecht, and Brecht is worth it imo..

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

we propped up 'show don't tell' style writing/analysis to prevent the masses from having detailed and abstract thoughts/criticism

the point of promoting show don't tell was to prevent people from making direct calls to action. i'd say valuing metaphor and allegory probably makes people more adept at the abstract if they're proficient at reading it

we took care of people reading & thinking proficiently with school privatization, don't get the two phenomena mixed up

[–] pillow@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

sankara-bass played electric guitar in a jazz fusion band. I couldn't find any clips of their songs but this group was one of their inspirations, definitely the kind of thing that would have horrified stalin in 1946

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1gJXGHvMwyc

Stalin was a lot of things one of those things is a man raised in the 1900's who liked to watch western movies

[–] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was in Berlin in my younger days and spent a whole afternoon in the "ddr" museum. the fact that I wasted a wasted a whole afternoon on liberal propaganda, and not w my German lover, I'll never amend.

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I missed the liberal propaganda museum, but I got taken to a place called iirc "Cafe Potempkin" where all the breakfast combos were named after famous Marxists which was fun.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

Me, an old bitch from c/all

“in the Dance Dance Revolution?”

It is quite interesting the way this policy developed as intitially the east german state wanted to have everyone have a stable job, hobbies etc but found that while a lot of people could be helped with that a subsection of society basically don't want that they want to drink and fight and play loud music

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's wild how accurate this is three decades later. Metal still with neo fascist attitudes, too many punks seem to just oppose everything and anything ("you can't tell me what to do" attitude)

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this document don't miss, pretty astute in its assessments I would say

[–] disownthelibs@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

It’s was made before rap though.

[–] punk_punk@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wouldn't crack down on idiot youth culture. Probably not gonna die from how my fantasy AES would repress it or not, but I would probably focus on mushing the brains and spines of intelligenzia and anybody with petit bourg ties to the outside until they are a squabbling pile of egoistic losers

[–] disownthelibs@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if the youth are literal nazis? It would flip the dynamic of the old being reactionary and the young like not on its head.

[–] punk_punk@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Nationalsocialism would obviously penalized and subverted and oppressed. Probably pay some hexbear mob to come up with cruel and unusual punishments

[–] punk_punk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Probably gonna release an intellectual hazard on the level of Tik Tok or whatever. Or employ a think tank that would come up with how it's anti-Italian to be against socialism so they drown each other in accusations of being racist against Italians

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

The "heavy" listing tracks with a lot of metalheads I had known. yea

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