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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Hella@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

A link to the Al Jazeera article and video: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/19/what-hit-ahli-hospital-in-gaza

A Channel 4 News investigation also confirms that Israel's audio tape of “Hamas operatives discussing the rocket malfunction" is a fake with their experts saying that the tone, syntax, accent and idiom sound absurd and not credible: https://www.channel4.com/news/who-was-behind-the-gaza-hospital-blast-visual-investigation

This would also not be the first time that the Israeli government has lied about "misfired Palestinian rockets": https://mondoweiss.net/2022/08/after-initially-blaming-palestinians-israel-admits-to-airstrike-that-killed-5-children-in-gaza/

The Israeli army has been trying to prevent international journalists and independent bodies from entering Gaza to act as independent investigators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60EK-3-kGLI

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[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 64 points 11 months ago

This is the first report that mentions there are multiple airstrikes hitting around the hospital at the time it was hit. Finally. I felt like I was going crazy. pepe-silvia

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 60 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It’s honestly wild anyone even has to waste energy and resources to dispute this. there’s never been a single event of such a devastating explosion from a single missile coming from Hamas but the one apparently they have they just end up using it on their own people?? Bffr

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

Shocked to hear the obvious bullshit was actually bullshit.

Still, good on AJ for bringing receipts and hopefully ending this farce.

[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

What is "Bffr"? Until now I thought it was like a "pff" like an exasperated exhalation. Here seems like I'm missing something with that translation

[-] context@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago
[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

Makes sense thanks

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I hate how an unwinnable argument over the cause of a single horrific bombing took over mainstream discourse when there's countless objective atrocities by Israel. It's distracting from everything else and genocidal fucks must love that.

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 36 points 11 months ago

Like they didn't even wait 24 hours before flattening a fucking mosque while everyone was still arguing about it

[-] uralsolo@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago

Even if it was a misfired Hamas rocket, why were there hundreds of people packed into a hospital parking lot?

Why were hundreds of people huddled in the hospital parking lot, mother fucker?

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

I actually had some scum try and tell me that there was no explosion at all, and it was just a parking lot fire that killed 500 people

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

Average Zionist: Their bodies just did that

[-] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago

I went to /r/worldnews just to see if this report or anything similar was anywhere to be seen. Absolutely not. In fact, I couldn't find a single story that showed any kind of sympathy towards Palestine. Those, I found only when I sorted by controversial.

dead-dove-3

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

don't quote me on this but i'm pretty sure al-jazeera is one of their banned sources

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago

This video analysis seems pretty definitive.

Not that I believed the propaganda at any point, but yesterday morning I was feeling a bit unsure about having definitive thoughts on this, given my expectations initially about what an area hit by a missile would look like.

So I think today we’ll see the tide turn against the propaganda similar to how it did with the beheaded babies. But with this, Genocide Joe has already doubled and tripled down on his position, so now it’s gonna be what Americans believe (because a lot of them want to believe it). “Chinese spy balloon” all over again.

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

This is how it always goes. Israel does something, blames Hamas, then when it becomes indisputable that it was Israel, they fall back on the "human shields" propaganda, but the story leaves the news cycle before that can be refuted.

[-] iie@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

it's just "STOP RESISTING" but against a few million people

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Very accurate, especially since a lot of cop departments in the US get trained by Israeli military

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 11 months ago

But Joe Brandon told me he saw proof. And decapatated babies… /s

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

In the closet decapitating babies, and one of the babies looked at me, etc

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

I was arguing with someone on Facebook who relayed that Israel is now floating the "theory" that the hospital was used a munitions stockpile

And this fucking dipshit swallowed it hook line and sinker

[-] D3FNC@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

I wish I could regain the innocence of being just another liberal moron. Feeling your long term memory and pattern recognition being born anew each and every time fucking you wake up must be really soothing.

I'm on that new day, new hippocampus grind

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

It's like reading the cursed tomes and gaining the ability to see the all-consuming ghoul god hovering in the sky. Like "well, I'm not confused anymore but knowing is arguablly worse."

[-] D3FNC@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Pain and suffering are always inevitable for a large intelligence and a deep heart. The really great men must, I think, have great sadness on earth.

Dostoyevsky

[-] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

I feel this. I wish I could tune all this shit out and just go about my day. But I feel like I'm watching the entire world crumbling around me and everyone is just along for the ride.

[-] ChairmanSpongebob@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

Israel bombing AJ headquarters in Qatar in 3...2...

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

Hundreds of Egyptians are attacking the Rafah crossing to demand its opening to bring aid to Gaza and chanting:"pull your tricks, Palestine, with the ball of 100 million pounds".

https://streamable.com/3ktrzo

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

pull your tricks, Palestine, with the ball of 100 million pounds

can anyone help me understand what this means

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

Walla website:

The Israeli government approves an emergency regulation to close broadcast stations that it believes “harm the security of the state.”

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Funny how every Western freedom evaporates the moment it becomes even mildly inconvenient for the state

Checks and balances? You can just wave your hands and go “umm EMERGENCY” and they all disappear

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Is that the one where one of the kibbutz survivor was interviewed?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

CNN leave west bank as people shout "fuck CNN" at them

https://streamable.com/srs29u

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

would be fun to ask them if they are wearing helmets because they know Israel shoots at journalists

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

(were you intending to post this in the news megathread?)

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Shit, yes. Messed my tabs up again.

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

So uncivil! 😤

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

German Ministry of the Interior:

If necessary, we will deport all Hamas supporters from the country.

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

glasses-off

If necessary, we will deport all Hamas supporters from the country.

glasses-on

I have to appease the racist AfD voters, so we're going to deport a bunch of Turkish people.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago
[-] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

What a surprise. A genocidal country did genocidal shit. Even Hasan was talki g about how the blast crater was small so maybe it wasn't Israel but I guess he isn't some random loser online and has to be more balanced in what he says

[-] TheOtherwise@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Dumb question time, for all of the explosions shown in their video footage, not just at the hospital, nome show rockets in the air first. They be going to fast to be seen?

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Not clear what the munitions were, but many types are guided bombs or shells, which don't have any propellant of their own, just fins for aerodynamic control.

[-] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

uhh this article is a little light on details

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

Very definitive video

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