I like Proton Mail. It does have a free tier, but the paid tier is pricier than you suggested in your post.
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The free tier is only 500mb, but I've been using it as my primary email for a year and with spam management I'm only at 100mb.
You wrote that 500mb is too small tho. 500mb are enough for me as well for mails.
If I wasn't deleting unnecessary emails, that would run out in about 24 months.
Well, it's always a good idea to delete unnecessary mails and junk mails
Absolutely can’t recommend the entire proton suite enough. I use mail and drive daily, vpn when needed, and just waiting on calendar and contacts to be developed out a little more.
I came here to recommend proton, the default quota is too small at 500mb, but if you manage spam etc it's a good app/platform.
I hope they offer an entry plan like with Google One at A$2.50.
Why do you need a mobile app? It's just email, all IMAP clients should work.
I have a mailbox address since years, never use the webui for checking mails, only for changing some settings, I access my mails with Thunderbird on desktop, Fairemail on Android. Both apps have builtin PGP, so you shouldn't care what the provider supports.
The spam filter in mailbox is glorious, never got a spam there.
Well imap isn't encrypted, right? That's why one can or rather needs to run a software with proton called proton bridge to get imap locally
Yes, but for me standards are more important than encryption. I can encrypt mails with pgp, than they are end to end encrypted, imap doesn't matter. I considered proton when I switched to mailbox, but usually I don't send encrypted mails, because the reciepents cant read them, so I wouldn't use the pros of proton.
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Protonmail and/or Tutanota, both fit my current needs and works fine for me.
Came here to say tutanota and protonmail. Guess I will leave now...
I second proton mail. Totally satisfied and really like their calender.
I'm using fastmail.com as my email provider in the USA. They're a small company based out of Australia with global servers. They pride themselves on privacy and security. Been using them for several years now. They're not the cheapest game in town, but they have an impressive feature set. They actually host a domain and web site for me that's included with my mid-tier account fees. I have zero complaints with them.
Even paid accounts with companies like Microsoft, Google, and Yahoo do not guarantee privacy. Yahoo has been known to scan email content for targeted advertising. Discovering that is what actually motivated me to use a paid service.
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Why the need for a specific mobile app for Mailbox? I use Mailbox in combination with FariEmail app on Android. It even supports PGP. Couldn't be happier.
Their critic is that pgp isn't as convenient
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I've switched to protonmail and I'm happy with the free plan for mail
I use posteo.net for 10 years now, and I am super happy with them. I don't get spam, and I have never missed an email.
They choose not to use a spam folder system, and I understand their reasoning, and agree with them.
They sometimes get criticized for some other decision (something to do with certificates, if I remember correctly), but after reading their reasoning, I agree with them.
In my experience, they have now real downside, and I recommend them to everyone I know when they come to me with email problems.
Keep in mind posteo.net does not have DMARC which means anyone can spoof an email @posteo domain.
All of the other providers have this. Mailing lists can be used with DMARC.
Thank you for pointing this out. I am no way expert but trying to study and understand. I then found other negative comments regarding the lack of DMARC, while on posteo website they say: "We have a DMARC "none" policy for Posteo email domain names, since DMARC is currently not recommended for mailbox providers. Outbound DMARC policies are primarily "best-suited for transactional emails and semi-transactional emails" (dmarc-org FAQ). At the present, DMARC has implications which do not meet customers' individual use of email." link
The dmarc-org FAQ is interesting too. I understand that Posteo publishes thier DMARC record, if I am not wrong
I would appreciate your opinion, you seem competent! Thank you
I'm currently using skiff, I don't know if it suits you or not.
- Modern Interface
- E2EE
- Aliases available (can send messages using aliases)
- 10gb of storage
- Has a mobile application
I know that feeling i also tried most , iam atm with Proton mail for secure stuff and Microsoft email for general but the spam protection on microsoft Absolutely SUCKS.
searching too a paid provider.
I've been using protonmail for a while and it works great for me, that said i'd go with tutanota if i could start over. They have a linux app and their android app is on fdroid, which for some reason proton refuses to do
Pretty sure the protonmail app is on fdroid
No it's not, only Proton VPN
It's on izzyondroid, not fdroid proper, and as i understand the Proton devs weren't the ones who put it there. Ideally they would put it on fdroid proper, or failing that host their own repo, rather than relying on the community to copy it to izzyondroid. It's often behind the play store version as well, which is an issue for security
I've been on Soverin.net for a while.
How's the interface?
I'll be honest, I chose them because they're a private European email host. Their web UI is pretty rudimentary, but I use other email apps anyway.
i have found this to be a useful comparison. they stress that the results are not necessarily in order - but everyone has their own desires, and it's easy to hold them up against this summary
Not specifically privacy focused, but i've been super happy with https://purelymail.com.
I'm sure it isn't at the level of proton or the like, but it works well and cheap.
Still haven't found the perfect email service provider but Mailfence has worked for me. It's easy to set it up with a mail client or use PWA, and I feel its calendar function is overall more robust than the competitors. Service and troubleshooting has also been timely and good for me. Not the most user friendly but best balance of everything in my opinion.
I use both Tutanota and Protonmail and love both. Protonmail is based out of Switzerland where Tutanota is based out of Germany. Germany is part of fourteen eyes so I give the win to Proton there. Tutanota has lower prices. Tutanota has apps available in App Image and Flatpak for Linux where Proton is only in the AUR and as a .deb. Tutanota has an Android app on F-Droid where Protonmail you have to navigate their site to find a standalone apk. Both are on the Fediverse but Proton did leave for a while where Tutanota stayed and was more active. Overall either would be a much better otpion than Hotmail/Gmail/etc.
I used this guide when setting up my self hosted email: https://workaround.org/ispmail/buster/big-picture/
I also added in Ciphermail for email encryption and it's been almost hands off ever since.
Granted, there were quite a few things to digest until things were working as I wanted.
PGP is great. If you learn how to use it on your own device, it doesn't matter what host you use. If you post your OS, I'll can point you to instructions on setting it up locally.
You're never going to get the bulk of senders (library, town council, your aging parents) to encrypt their mail to you. Can you make peace with that?
It is important to find a host that has a funding model based on subscriptions instead of monetizing users.
My recommendation is find a host with a good subscription model and in a county that respects user privacy. I like KolabNow in Switzerland.
Thank you. I had come across KolabNow, I will look into it again. I have never used PGP and it does not seem a smooth mechanism to me, as I am used to encrypt emails with password. Maybe I am wrong ... PS: I am onWindows
Oh, it is not a smooth mechanism at all. If it were, everyone would use it. Google started to develop a browser extension some years ago to make key management and encrypting easier but it was abandoned because it would inhibit their ability to do targeted advertising.
Here is a link to set up PGP on Windows.
Thunderbird has PGP built in and it's pretty seamless once it's set up.
Google developed that!? Or has it been an extension for google mail rather?
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