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"Queers for Palestine? What's next? Chickens for KF-"

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[–] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 100 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Queers for Palastine? Uuuuuuum okay....so that just happened. flips though papers uh....checks snopes....okaaaaaaaaaaaay adults hard wow... r slash leapordsatemyface much? searches through 4gb of black lady reaction images even though I'm a 45 year old white man from a wealthy suburb of Maryland

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

searches through 4gb of black lady reaction images even though I'm a 45 year old white man from a wealthy suburb of Maryland

![che-smile](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/ab3fd1e9-09a8-40ef-b57b-9ad26a8087a7.png "emoji che-smile")

[–] yoink@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

oh my god the outrage the internet had about the idea that maybe using black people as your reaction gifs was kinda fucked up

how dare you take away my reaction treats i NEED to use them they are my emotional support minstrel gifs

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You ever think about how, no matter how cringe you can be, no matter how badly you fuck up and let others down, at least you'll never do reddit-speak unironically?

[–] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do it sometimes reflectively, I wonder if it's unironic then.

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[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Lord forgive me that even if they're correct and I move rightward as I get older to being a regular-ass ![LIB](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/f737e650-47c9-4d1b-b03c-0d75e5a4f692.png "emoji LIB"), I never become as corny as the 30-40 something liberals of today.

[–] Sprite@lemmy.ml 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Queer here, I'm for Palestine. Even if someone might be hypothetically homophobic, I still do not support an apartheid and ethnical cleansing. Many a lib are crypto-gay-friendly anyway and the mask falls off very quickly when a queer person may need tangible help or merely dares to exist near them.

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Even if someone might be hypothetically homophobic, I still do not support an apartheid and ethnical cleansing.

Even if we didn't accept that, what point are these conservative pundits actually trying to make? That we should support the murder of bigots/people with ideological differences? In that case, who's going to tell them that they'd be the first to go?

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Well then clearly the only solution here is to keep bombing Gaza until they're chill with gay people

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Should we tell they/them?"

Not how pronouns work. They is only used to indicate a grammatical subject.

[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They/them don't care it's just virtue signalling that you/yours hate trans people

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"they/them" is literally ungrammatical in the sentence "Should we tell they/them?"

The slash (/) is generally used to show that either word could be used. "They" doesn't work in the sentence "should we tell they", so shouldn't be listed as an option.

But now that I reread your comment I think you're agreeing with the parent post and saying that the person that xitted the ungrammatical xit was doing the virtue signaling. [Insert SNL Church Lady saying "never mind" here]

[–] SovietyWoomy@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Queers for America

Florida: Who wants to tell them?

[–] manuallybreathing@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

sorry comrade, i'm only interested in joining queers against the united states

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

username EndWokeness

Imagine being this creative

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

So much for the free speech right.

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

everyone saying this shit should read this and then never speak again

I've always imagined you and me sitting out in the sun, hand in hand, free at last. We spoke of all the places we would go if we could. Yet you are gone now. If I had known that bombs raining down on us would take you from me, I would have gladly told the world how I adored you more than anything. I'm sorry I was a coward.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was not expecting something this depressing on this thread

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

this queering the map is why i'm so fucking mad whenever anyone tries to use queer rights as a cudgel against anti-colonial movements, what rights does a queer israeli have that could possibly justify this?

[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

who wants to listen. who wants to hear. who wants to take people at their word or action

Exactly the same rainbow wash we see with Ukraine, with china, with any western enemy

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

the surface level statement here is "palestinian muslims are queerphobic, therefore fascist israel should keep bombing them" as though that would somehow fix the problem of queerphobia. But the deeper implication behind this rhetoric is that the imperial core in general is pro queer and the imperial periphery is queerphobic, and that settler-colonialism has nothing to do with capitalism or imperialism or racism, and it instead has everything to do with the imperial core bourgeoisie magnanimously and philanthropically spreading "human rights" to the "backwards" people... what really pisses me off about this is that, for the longest time, indigenous queerness was crushed by colonial forces under a standard of european christian heteronormativity. Only recently has the periphery gotten this reputation of somehow being less "socially progressive" (problematic term that divorces base from superstructure) than the imperial core, and that reputation is owed entirely to the imperial core funding and arming reactionaries everywhere in the periphery, to crush organic grassroots progress in the periphery, because it was allied with anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, and anti-capitalist forces of various political tendencies. The truth is, the imperial core doesn't want the periphery developing its own organic movements for queer rights. It wants to use the absence of these rights as a license to do imperialism and colonialism. And it has actively manufactured the lack of these rights by always backing reactionaries whenever it has the chance.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Although the screenshot is mostly conservatives, a lot of liberals believe this too. But when you point out that Cuba has changed drastically since it’s state homophobia days to including LGBT people in the constitution, they will cry and pick it apart for any reason why it’s not real progress.

Capitalists, but specifically the liberals and conservatives, pretend that their ideologies have always been tolerant. Although it’s a conservative cliche, the democrats were literally the party of slavery and the KKK. Black people, Asian people, Hispanic people, LGBT people, and hell even non Anglo Europeans were treated like subhumans. They want to pretend that communism and non western societies are frozen in time, never to evolve past reactionary sentiment as if the west has.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

democrats were literally the party of slavery and the KKK. Black people, Asian people, Hispanic people, LGBT people, and hell even non Anglo Europeans were treated like subhumans. They want to pretend that communism and non western societies are frozen in time, never to evolve past reactionary sentiment as if the west has.

boom. you got right to the heart of it.

[–] iByteABit@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

They want to pretend that communism and non western societies are frozen in time, never to evolve past reactionary sentiment as if the west has.

Great point

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

"palestinian muslims are queerphobic, therefore fascist israel should keep bombing them"

And at the same time, you're personally making the lives of persecuted Christians in Syria and other Muslim majority countries/regions worse if you criticize an American Christo-facist for trying to pass a law to make it legal to take out drag queens with a sniper rifle.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm once again thinking about how rad and dank the world would have been without the all encompassing intervention of Europe pressing everyone's head under a boot.

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[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Tell them what? That homosexuality is illegal in Israel?

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago
[–] NotErisma@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Recharge the dunk tank, throw car batteries into it.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what do these people think occupations do for minority rights among the occupied people?

what do they think occupations do for reactionary elements among the occupied people?

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s the same people who invoke women or LGBT residents in Cuba or Iran or North Korea and then suggest that we help them by furthering pushing them into poverty and desperation via sanctions

[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Welp genocide it is then I guess

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

As a queer, I'd like to say that I've seen these kinds of people bring up Christian persecution in the Middle East and North Africa thousands of times in order to deflect responsibility for anti-queer sentiments/legislation by Christians in western countries. Apparently supporting the oppressed despite having ideological differences isn't important when it doesn't benefit them.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

this feels like 2003 again, but just sadder and even more genocidal this time. I remember even then the moderate liberal position was to kill every person who owns a Quran supposedly in the name of women's and gay rights. Yeah, ok.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Almost as if it’s better to re-educate a population and improve their material conditions than to exterminate them.

If the walls around their prison crumbled because of queer intervention, I think some of them would listen

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago
[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

This is why memes exist. To destroy critical thought.

All you have to do to win an argument is use a smug phrase ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

A. Why the hell should we support Amerikkka either?

B. I just don't want innocents to die, innocent Israelis included. Simple as.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

dunk tank gets me confused sometimes lol but I gotchu

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