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[–] NiaTheCat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the launch of these is anything like the original launch, I think I'll pass on this one too. That launch experience trying to get ahold of one really soured me on the PS5

[–] Okalaydokalay@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m in the same boat. I used that money and saved a bit more and just built my first gaming PC.

I still want to play Ghost of Tsushima but I will not buy a PS5 just for that game. Don’t think I’m going to buy any more consoles in the future, sadly. The last release soured me on these releases too.

[–] Karzyn@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In early 2021 I, like so many people, wanted to build my first gaming pc. As I'm sure you can guess, I had a hell of a time trying to get my hands on a decent graphics card. In the end I purchased a prebuilt pc. The whole gpu buying attempt was so stressful and giving up was so disappointing. Should I never try to build a pc in the future? Of course not! Mostly I learned to be patient and accept that I might not get exactly what I want. The large PS5s are currently readily available, just get one of those.

[–] Okalaydokalay@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It’s not just the lack of availability but that was a part of it. Microsoft and Sony’s lack of proper response is part of the reason.

I remained “patient” to some extent as I only just got to build my PC this year. The GPU “shortage” was a part of it too.

But I felt that Sony and Microsoft could have done more for customers. Sony had a program to get actual PS users a PS5 but that too was still sold out. Scalpers had no issue buying pallets of consoles but actual fans couldn’t. It was insane.

But besides that, I’ve since realized that, at least for myself, a PC is the better way to go. Consoles are a waste of money for me in the long run as a PC will be used for more than just gaming and the longevity of the parts and upgradeability is incomparable. I likely wouldn’t have felt this way had I just been able to get a PS5/Xbox Series X like I wanted.

But Microsoft and Sony don’t seem to care about their actual fans and them getting consoles in their homes, which is what soured it for me. Though, yeah, same could be said about Nvidia and AMD as well to an extent too, but there are more manufacturers under them that make the actual cards and you had some like EVGA that had programs that tried to get a GPU in actual customers’ hands and not the greedy scalpers.

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[–] NiaTheCat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Funnily enough same for me, I already had a prebuilt gaming PC but after spending the time trying to get ahold of the PS5, I just started saving and made my first PC build as an upgrade to what I already had, feel like it was the better choice in the long run.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Ditto. I skipped PS5. Would have bought one, but they wanted to play games with their customers, so...

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Wait a second, you can add on the Bluray drive to the slim PS5? Meaning you're not locked in to an all-digital console, but you can still upgrade later? That's a great idea, why is no one talking about this?

Sony finally gets to join the ranks of add-on-disc-player consoles: the Sega Megadrive, the N64DD, and this... thing.

[–] flameguy21@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No one's talking about it because it costs $30 more than just buying the physical version outright

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

It really feels like a FOMO relief for people who want to go all digital. Just in case you want to get discs later.

In other words, Sony wants you to buy digital and don't worry so much about it.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh... then it's not that good of a deal. Cool tech, but not consumer friendly.

[–] Jinxyface@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

That's a great idea, why is no one talking about this?

Because why would you buy a digital PS5 and a blu ray drive when you can just buy the disc PS5 and not have to deal with an external blu ray drive?

[–] MAQ22@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago

@HarkMahlberg @Omegamanthethird that sounds something Sony would never allow

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Just in time for the only game Sony has put out to make owning a PS5 worthwhile! (Fingers crossed Spiderman 2 is as good as its predecessors.)

EDIT - To be clear, spoken as someone who was lucky enough to get a PS5 on day 1 and almost never uses it. I like the Xbox controller and UI much better and... there just aren't many good exclusives. And a lot of the ones that are good end up on other systems anyways.

[–] freebread@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. In a year where there are entirely too many great releases on all consoles, I've only played two on my PS5 (Street Fighter 6 & Final Fantasy XVI)

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, FF16 is on my list of games to play... but like you said, too many great releases at once. I figure by the time I get around to it, maybe I can get a price break.

[–] freebread@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

As a die-hard, I bought it Day 1 and got my $70 worth. But after I 100%'d it and looked at my recently played, I realized the only other game was Chicory which I played around Christmas time..

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not if you're willing to wait two years for it to come to PC.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Patient gamers gang rejoice!

[–] knokelmaat@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Demon's Souls is the first souls game that I have ever completed, I think it is an astounding part of the ps5 catalogue. Also, currently going through Ghost of Tsushima PS5 edition and at 4k60 that game is incredible.

Those are 2 experiences that I loved that are only available on PS5.

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Literally both games that came out on other consoles that the PS5 so you don't actually need a PS5 to play either of them.

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are you talking about the original Demon's Souls? From what I've heard, there are so many QOL improvements they can't really be treated as the same game.

Also, Ratchet and Clank made me happy to have a PS5 (at that time the PC release hadn't been announced).

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I played through Demon's Souls on a ps3 emulator and then the PS5 version. The PS3 version with a 60fps+1440p mod is great but the new version is still worth getting a PS5 for imo

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I see an OG PS5 next to it for scale? It's hard to visualize how much smaller it is.

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

Hermes confirms Barbados Slim is a mahogany god.

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So this is a de facto price increase? From a manufacturer that just reported a record high annual profit? 175GB (the slightly increased storage) hasn't been worth $50 in years.

This generation sucks. I was already annoyed that we probably weren't going to see price drops with this or the Switch, but I certainly didn't see a price increase for an unproven hardware revision coming.

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

At least for the US, the price increase is just for digital version. And honestly, I'm certain the old digital had a profit margin hit in comparison to the disc drive version. It was probably worth it to lock people out of discs. This version will have a disc drive attachment option, so they've just given up on their all-digital endeavor.

Aside from that, $50 for 175 GB SSD isn't a great value. The extra 175GB SSD is a significant increase. And for the disc version, that's purely an upgrade.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Completely trivial point, but a non-USAist I don't think I'll ever stop finding the phrase "the Holiday Season" weird. If you mean Christmas because you want people to buy it as a Christmas present, then just say Christmas! I guess it's to be non-religious but I just find it funny to say "the holiday season" to mean winter when the season that everyone goes on holiday is summer.

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US, there are multiple holidays people get together for. Halloween (to a lesser degree), Thanksgiving, Christmas (or Hanukkah), New Years. Extended families will often get together multiple times for these and then not see each other again until the next year. Thanksgiving really kicks off the retail season with black Friday, but there's also a lot of time off during the winter time from school and work.

It really is a season with Christmas at the center of it. A lot of our "Christmas" songs don't even mention Christmas. It's just songs about winter.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That much makes sense, but when it's companies releasing products they hope will be bought as Christmas presents then it's just odd to hear them skirting round the word "Christmas". Unless you guys buy each other PS5s for new year?

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also somewhat inclusive of Lunar New Year and Diwali. More broadly, it's a public recognition that not everyone celebrates Christmas to make it clear they're accepting of diversity.

Maybe it's the Canadian in me, but I don't wish anyone a "Merry Christmas" unless maybe if I specifically know they celebrate Christmas; I almost always say "Happy Holidays!"

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah it makes sense, just sounds odd. Maybe it's because here in Britain Christmas is kind of a thing for everyone almost entirely independent of religion. Cultural differences and all that.

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I was a kid, it wasn't entirely uncommon to get a big gift during a random holiday get-together.

But I think "holidays" is more of a generic retail term used to get people to buy more and feel less limited.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it could also be cultural difference in the use of the word "holiday". In Britain a holiday is what you'd call vacation, whereas our bank holidays are what you'd call public holidays. We don't generally refer to Christmas and New Year as holidays, even though that's when you take time off work, because you're not "going on holiday".

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I had no idea. I think that pretty much explains the confusion then.

[–] jalatani@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think of it like there's more than just Christmas being celebrated at the end of the year, so to include them all it's easier to just say the holiday season

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I get it, it's just one of those phrases that sounds weird to the non-American ear

[–] Flip@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Where I live we have a bunch of small holidays in the spring. Winter only has the one big one. Spring seems more the season for them

[–] mooseknee@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

In a lot of countries (Northern Hemisphere) Summer is the holiday season, but that has never been my experience in the US. So it might not be as strange from that perspective.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is courteous to other religions by not assuming everyone is Christian, and doesn't hurt me at all, so why not?

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

As I said in another reply, yeah it makes sense, just sounds odd. Maybe it's because here in Britain Christmas is kind of a thing for everyone almost entirely independent of religion. Cultural differences and all that.

Good to see all the rumors finally confirmed, feels like there's been speculation about a slim model since the PS5 launched. Hopefully, they've sorted out the worst of the supply issues and the PS5 Slim won't be as hard to find as the PS5 was when it first launched.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Sony doesn't even call it "PS5 Slim".

[–] freebread@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not much reason to replace my current one, but many reasons to pick up OG console covers now if they're going to be phased out in November.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They literally just announced three more cover colors, (got the announcement email yesterday), I doubt they’ll phase them out that quickly. Even if they decide to go fast, I’d think they at least be smart enough to wait until after the holidays.

[–] freebread@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Saw that but these won't work on the new model so I doubt they make more. Unless of course they're for the revision but I don't know how that'd work with the new design.

I'm flashing back to Xbox 360 faceplates.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you normally replace a perfectly functional console with a smaller but otherwise identical machine? Do what you want with your own cash but that's a very decadent purchase!

[–] freebread@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly- though I did trade up my OG PS2 for a slim back in the day. The OG had served its time (~5 years) and was ready to go.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This guy made a slimmer one. He cheated with the cooling, yes – but still – not bad for just one guy.

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Most of the extra size is from cooling. So it's not surprising that someone could make it slimmer by messing with that.

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