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[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No one should care what the government of Qatar thinks is hypocrisy.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dismiss the entire idea because of the publication it comes from (which has been know for posting things that other news outlets won’t cover). Smart.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A false equivalence? Sure, I'll always dismiss that.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Whatever helps your bubble not pop

[–] wheels@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ok, I could look this up, but I’m asking you instead. Why is Israel’s behaviour over the last 10 years in Gaza more justified than Russia’s?

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because Ukraine isn't run by a government composed of people dedicated to eliminating Russia as a nation? Because Ukraine doesn't attack Russian civilians? Because Ukraine isn't a terrorist organization bent on literal genocide? Because Israel hasn't occupied any portion of Gazan territory since 2005?

FAFO is what's going on here for the Gazans. They fucked around, now they're finding out. I have many criticisms of Israeli policy, but Hamas are uncivilized barbarians, murderous thugs it's impossible to negotiate with.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And IDF is famous for their great negotiations.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don't smell like roses, but they're not genocidal terrorists

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the ones who go around killing innocent Palestinians and forcing them into ghettos? The ones that routinely defend Israeli people stealing land from innocent people?

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's what happens when you repeatedly lose wars you start with the intention of perpetrating genocide. FAFO

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So basically you are on Israel’s side because they are winning? You’re seriously a band wagon fan for Israel?

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I have more sympathy for them because they're not genocidal animals, as any human being with a conscience would.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have more sympathy for them because they're not genocidal animals, as any human being with a conscience would.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don’t think what Israel has been doing to Palestinians is genocide, you are deluded.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Population numbers of both Israeli Arabs and Palestinians say that it is a strange fuckin genocide lmfao

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Slow ass genocide amirite?

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you think that you are honestly delusional. Neither side here is great, you might want to check some of the stuff IDF has done for the past two decades. But you seem to brainwashed to even want to look at something that might contradict your already established view.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"everyone I disagree with is brainwashed. I, alone, am a paragon of objectivity"

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

Oh ow you got me, such a good response. You must be so smart

[–] salvador@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because Ukraine isn’t run by a government composed of people dedicated to eliminating Russia as a nation? Because Ukraine doesn’t attack Russian civilians?

What sources do you make your claims based on? Even in some US and European ones, including the most mainstream, there'll be evidence to precisely the opposite. Not always, here and there. Let alone in the russian ones.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does the charter of Hamas say? That's my source.

[–] salvador@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't quote anything.

[–] salvador@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

See what text of mine you initially replied to, and find a quote there

[–] salvador@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No one should care what the government of USA thinks is hypocrisy.

[–] tetraodon@feddit.it 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  • Tankies: “Resisting invasions is now good”
  • Russia: “Invasions are bad”
  • Republicans: “Sending arms to fight invasions is good”
  • China: “A two state solution is now good”

https://mastodon.world/@DarthPutinKGB/111206006465241459

  • Qatar: "The West are hypocrites"
[–] bamboo@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The differences in support between Ukraine and Palestine really demonstrates how geopolitical actors act purely in self interest. They may talk about oppressed peoples and freedom and autonomy and all that, but when it comes to choosing sides it’s always about self interest.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

Yes, yes, let's all have sympathy for the genocidal terrorists in Gaza! If we only let all of them into Israel and allow them to murder or ethnically cleanse every single Jew in Israel and Palestine, there'll be peace.

[–] salvador@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Europe and US like to accuse others of everything. But they, strangely, don't like to be accused themselves in anything