This type of collective punishment against civilians is a war crime.
I don't think this is a "punishment." It seems rather foolish to expect them to supply electricity to the people actively using the electricity to kill their civillians.
Maybe Israel should have consider that before declaring the people of Palestine, as a whole second class citizens and slaves and erected a part-time between the two. Fuck israel and I hope they die
"to the people actively using electricity to kill their civilians"
Right. So you're telling me they have data analysts that can precisely tell which buildings are occupied by hamas and which are occupied by civilians. You know, intel that would be worth a fortune for them considering that's kinda their enemy and it would be an incredible chance to get rid of them once and for all. Notwithstanding the fact that they'd have to have the ability to individually toggle electricity for every building, which, I have a feeling, does not in fact work that way.
Allow me to clarify.
Their first priority is to stop their citizens from dying.
If they need to cut off electricity to terrorists to do that, they will. If they need to cut off electricity to whole regions of the Gaza strip, or the Gaza strip altogether, to keep their people safe, they will.
More targeted enforcement would be preferred. Sure. But that's not what I said was happening.
You know, intel that would be worth a fortune for them considering that’s kinda their enemy and it would be an incredible chance to get rid of them once and for all.
Fun fact, Israel is very good at intel. Israel can often find which building are occupied by Hamas.
Fun fact, Hamas enjoys operating from, and firing rockets from, civilian homes, mosques, hospitals, and schools. Here's a handy list: https://kbin.social/m/Israel/t/368817/A-handy-list-of-sources-describing-where-Hamas-produces-stores
One of Israel's greatest challenges is finding ways to stop terrorism given this unfortunate reality. They develop technology to try to detect civilian presence in these buildings, and to, in case they miss anybody, warn the civilians and give them time to evacuate.
There is no civilian infrastructure in a concentration camp. There are no civilians in a concentration camp.
Not having that data is exactly the point, if they had that sure they could specifically cut power. But they don't have that, and Hamas is mixing with civilians, so they're forced to cut power across the board
9/11 all over again. War on Terror. You can’t kill ideas
Those ideas originate mostly from those within reach of the IDF. They know what to do.
The Israeli government is a disgrace. Shameful corrupt regime needs to be jailed for crimes against humanity.
Be that as it may, no government in the world would leave today's events unanswered for.
Turns out when you treat a population as subhuman for over 50 years, some of them start doing some inhumane shit....
The solution is basic human decency, but asking the oppressed population to change before the oppressors never works out.
Israel disengaged from Gaza almost twenty years ago now, ending the occupation and effectively giving the Palestinians the chance to have their own state.
Since then, Gaza has attacked Israel, targeting its civilians over, and over, and over, clearly showing that the desire for genocide is no less today amongst the Palestinian leadership than it was in 1948.
I highly doubt that Israel will ever repeat such concessions in the future. Simply put, it was a grave error with a cost that Israel is still paying in blood to this day. This current invasion by Hamas only reinforces the fact that Israel fundamentally cannot trust Palestinian leaders and must keep any autonomy with a very short leash.
Are you just going to ignore the months of articles about how Israeli "settlers" have been kicking Palestinians out of their homes?
You put a group of people in a small space with little resources, and then keep shrinking the space/resources while under constant threats of violence....
And shit like this will happen. Eventually their lives are so shitty that they take insane risks, like starting a war with someone vastly more military strength.
It's just a scaled up version of a riot.
You can't treat humans like animals, then act surprised when they act like animals.
There is not a single Israeli settlement in Gaza. Their GDPPC is some 5000USD, which, for comparison, is almost twice that of Haiti. Insane amounts of international funding goes into Gaza every year. In fact, they receive the highest amount of international aid per capita on earth (more than 500USD/Capita!). In addition to that Israel usually provides both electricity and water at discounted rates, meaning almost everyone has access to both.
The Gazan leadership has been given numerous chances and opportunities for peace, yet over and over they chose to slaughter the innocent. The aid money, instead of buying food, funding education and healthcare goes to buying weapons, rockets and indoctrinating the next generation of genocidal terrorist.
This was an act of war, not a riot.
You're acting as if the Israeli's gracefully gave Palestinians a home in Gaza. The conditions in Gaza are abysmal purely due to Israel's actions.
Palestinians were forced into Gaza after the slaughter of over 200 Palestinian towns in 1948. The survivors of those attacks, refugees, were forced into the area we now call Gaza.
Gaza is effectively the world's largest open air prison. They are fenced in by what Israel so lovingly calls the "iron wall". Gaza citizens are not allowed to leave. They are prisoners of that strip.
Their trade is severely limited. They face militarized border crossings on both ends with Egypt and Israel.
Israel even built a sea wall to prevent fishing boats from being able to "go too far" and they patrol that sea wall with warships and will sink any boat that gets, what Israel deems as, too close to that sea wall.
That isn't a life. That isn't living. The Palestinians in Gaza face unemployment rates of over 50%. They're completely cut off from the world.
Of course they're going to fight back. I don't know what anyone else would expect. You can't treat people that way and expect that they'll just lay down and take it.
You're acting as if the Israeli's gracefully gave Palestinians a home in Gaza. The conditions in Gaza are abysmal purely due to Israel's actions.
It's Hamas. Blame the right culprit who has put at risk the lives of so many Palestinians.
True, but they should target Hamas. Collective punishment is a war crime.
They do target Hamas. Hamas likes to hide terrorist activity in homes, mosques, schools, and hospitals. Which is why Israel develops technology to try to ensure that there are no civilians present when it fires on a base of terrorist activity. And also why Israel uses a variety of technologies to warn any potential civilians who they might have missed that there is a counterattack coming to disable rocket fire. Hamas doesn't mind the headlines when a few Palestinian civilians inevitably die in one of these counterstrikes. It's part of the plan.
I'm aware of that. And that's collateral damage, which is unfortunate but it happens in war, especially with groups like Hamas operating as you said. I'm specifically talking about shutting off all electricity to Gaza indiscriminately -- that's collective punishment.
The Palestinians are just answering the decades of colonialism and genocide they've received
nothing in Israel has resembled colonialism since its founding. The British and Ottoman and other colonies were quite awful, but thankfully, those times are over, and the indigenous people of Judea are welcome there once again.
Nothing? If forcibly taking people's land doesn't qualify as colonialism I don't think anything does.
The Jews of today are no better than the Nazis of yesteryear morally speaking
No. If you are against Jews or Jewish people in general or even if you just think ill of them, you’re a fucking bigoted piece of shit.
I was talking about the Israeli government, not Jewish people.
News flash, Israel is a Jewish state
How far up your ass is your head currently located? I mean, do I need to call guiness record company, let me know I think we can get paid for submitting the record. I’ll be your witness.
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